Either remove the XP loss or remove the Omen of Ammelioration

When defending the existence of the XP loss, there are a lot of claims being made about how it is really necessary. It might be our only line of defense against bots. Without it, players can climb on XP and finish the game super fast. Etc. Etc.

But then we have this Omen thing that greatly reduces the XP loss. Isn't it weird? If the mechanic is so necessary, why is it so easy to avoid? What exactly stops the XP bots from using it?

Where's the harm? Well, the purpose of a system is its output. In its current state, the system is not reducing bots, it's not slowing down XP gain. The penalty of dying is not 10% XP, it's 2.5% XP and around 4 exalts, and having to navigate through the currency exchange and having to press a button. But note how bots can't get annoyed. So the annoyance penalty only affects players.

All I am saying is, they could remove the Omen and change the XP penalty to 3% XP and slightly reduce currency drop rates for the next minutes after each death, and it would be basically be the same but less annoying.

The game isn't finished when you get to level 100, unless that's your only goal...

There aren't bots out there just getting to level 100. Bots exist because of RMT. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that EXP loss on death is a tool for managing botting lol.

Either way, there has got to be a reason for the XP Penalty, right? Then why is it so easy to skip?

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YNRY#3842 เขียน:

The game isn't finished when you get to level 100, unless that's your only goal...

There aren't bots out there just getting to level 100. Bots exist because of RMT. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that EXP loss on death is a tool for managing botting lol.

I would almost garuntee a Google search would bring up level 100 accounts for sale. I'm not going to search for it though. I'm not going to give scummy RMT websites hits on Google.

I think that is what OP is referencing when they say it's a tool to stop bots. If the bot dies a lot it doesn't get to level 100

Or what? What will you do if they don't either?

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Coconutdoggy#1805 เขียน:

Or what? What will you do if they don't either?

This forum is called Early Access Feedback. My feedback comes in the place of a suggestion. My suggestion is to fix this weird cognitive dissonance.

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DankWeebTrash#7386 เขียน:

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YNRY#3842 เขียน:

The game isn't finished when you get to level 100, unless that's your only goal...

There aren't bots out there just getting to level 100. Bots exist because of RMT. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that EXP loss on death is a tool for managing botting lol.

I would almost garuntee a Google search would bring up level 100 accounts for sale. I'm not going to search for it though. I'm not going to give scummy RMT websites hits on Google.

I think that is what OP is referencing when they say it's a tool to stop bots. If the bot dies a lot it doesn't get to level 100

Ok... I did a google search and couldn't find one in the first 2 pages of results. Can we stop living in pretend-world now?

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vexorian#9572 เขียน:

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Coconutdoggy#1805 เขียน:

Or what? What will you do if they don't either?

This forum is called Early Access Feedback. My feedback comes in the place of a suggestion. My suggestion is to fix this weird cognitive dissonance.

Right but you're giving feedback to something that doesn't exist.

Not sure what this has to do with bots, it probably has zero effect on them. And the entire game can be completed without ever reaching lvl 95, even lower with some builds.

As for the omen, poe is all about opportunities and costs. The omen isn't free, takes up 1 slot and prevents relying on other types of omens. Its an option for players to use if they wish to. I used like 3-4 this league and willibgly ate the 10% the other times.

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Direfell#7544 เขียน:

Not sure what this has to do with bots, it probably has zero effect on them. And the entire game can be completed without ever reaching lvl 95, even lower with some builds.

As for the omen, poe is all about opportunities and costs. The omen isn't free, takes up 1 slot and prevents relying on other types of omens. Its an option for players to use if they wish to. I used like 3-4 this league and willibgly ate the 10% the other times.

A 1x1 slot is a bit too small. Versus the time it takes to get those 7.5% of experience it, the decision seems a bit too obvious for me. Actually the annoyance of having to enable it and move it between stash/stack exchange to inventory is probably going to be the real factor when I decide to stop using it, far more than the inventory usage