I gave this game yet another try

as a 10+year 10k+hr closed beta poe enjoyer I have not been enjoying poe 2.

I keep trying. Got to maps a couple times. But I just cannot enjoy it. I tried this last update and got to level 10 and hated every frustrating second of it.

I quit for a few months. I tried again this week, new char got to level 20. Its still so fucking tedious and unfun. I have never had less fun in an arpg.

I don't know what the fuck GGG is thinking with making the game so tedious and frustrating. I was literally unable to kill an early boss until I found boots with move speed on them. It was actually impossible for me to effectively dodge the attacks until I got the boots. As soon as I got boots it was doable. Not easy but doable.

I am so very sad that this game is basically dark souls lite arpg. Its not great. It doesnt get fun until later in maps when you are OP but the path to get there is so tedious, unfun, frustrating and overall just dogshit.

Such a horrible follow up to one of my favorite games of all time.

So disappointed.

I have exact opposite feelings.
I enjoy Poe2 a lot overall, even tho it's got some issues.

I hate poe1 passionately, it's unplayable crap to me.

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Evergrey#7535 เขียน:

I have exact opposite feelings.
I enjoy Poe2 a lot overall, even tho it's got some issues.

I hate poe1 passionately, it's unplayable crap to me.

pretty much the same on my side. loved d2, loved poe1 way back, but poe1 deteriorated so much i can't even play it without getting a headache. This made me resent poe1, but poe2 brought a lot of joy back for me. it even revived my interest in d2, and now that i'm older i enjoy that old game for whole different reasons.

I cannot fathom why you guys like a dumbed down more tedious and slow version of a game. That's what poe2 is to me. Poe1 with tons of missing content, tons of limitations, dogshit crafting and half the pace. Sure we get WASD and dodge roll..... yay..They literally implemented things that were REMOVED from poe1 because they sucked in poe1. Yet now we have to deal with them again.

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RitualMurder#3177 เขียน:

I cannot fathom why you guys like a dumbed down more tedious and slow version of a game. That's what poe2 is to me. Poe1 with tons of missing content, tons of limitations, dogshit crafting and half the pace. Sure we get WASD and dodge roll..... yay..They literally implemented things that were REMOVED from poe1 because they sucked in poe1. Yet now we have to deal with them again.

"Dumbed down" lmao. I won't go that route, i was on probation recently.

Poe1 feels like epileptic fever dream to me. It's too fast, no skill in the combat is required, you just turn off your brain and harvest the rape. You do need to glue the build together first, which is a challange, but the combat is just uninteresting. Also lack of Qol like effect tooltips is a heavy no-no for me. Feels like a decent roguelike, but not an arpg to me.

Poe2 has the build making and theorycrafting on high level and the combat is actually fun as you gotta be careful and not just mindlessly fly forward. Theres a lot I could pick on poe2 (check my posts), but overall i take Poe2 over Poe1 all day long.
I wouldn't play poe1 if someone paid me tbh (depends on the amount obviously).

Case is, I am fine with playing poe2 and not touching poe1, so i wont cry on poe1 forums.
Perhpas you should similarly stick to the one you like and not try to homogenize poe2 to be a pointless clone of poe1.

Edit:
Btw - its a Feedback section and you just posted a rant here.

For me less is more. I can see things on screen, i can make a good character without ever opening a spreadsheet, i can acquire good enough items without opening a probability calculator, I don't have bazzilion rare items to ID, hell I even get excited when something drops now.

Meanwhile poe1 to me is like some asian game with fire works and ding ding sounds where not much matters beside the fireworks and ding dings

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

For me less is more. I can see things on screen, i can make a good character without ever opening a spreadsheet, i can acquire good enough items without opening a probability calculator, I don't have bazzilion rare items to ID, hell I even get excited when something drops now.

Meanwhile poe1 to me is like some asian game with fire works and ding ding sounds where not much matters beside the fireworks and ding dings

if you are only playing the most cancer meta build watching some streamer with 1000 div in gear sure

i play ssf and play whatever the fuck i want in poe and its 100000000000000000x better than poe2, the item and character progress is far superior and the gameplay progress from weak to strong actually feels like im making constant progress poe2 feels like an uphill battle where im always 1 step behind and then end game once you are geared is the exact same as poe1 it just takes too long and isnt fun to get there

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RitualMurder#3177 เขียน:

i play ssf and play whatever the fuck i want in poe and its 100000000000000000x better than poe2(...)

Good for you man, keep playing it then.
I hope you're winning.

Skill issue btw.

Well, you expressed your personal feelings which are valid, but also subjective.

I'm in the camp of people that want meaningful and somewhat tactical combat approach. Our brains are probably wired different, we need challenge and beating it gives us satisfaction. It often comes with limited resources to overcome it, which makes you actively try to fit your looted equipment with build to make it work. It requires your full attention and presence, 100% immersion with possibility of every playthrough to be different.

On the other hand, when it becomes too easy, I personally just fall asleep, it's not engaging anymore and it is easy path to alzhaimer, there is just not much "you" in it anymore. What is so fun about deleting whole screen of monsters offscreen and possibly brain off too? - I will never understand this, it's fun for couple of hours max to me.

There is fine line between too slow and too fast. I don't hate fast, quite opposite. You can go fast in Poe 2 if you know how to build it.

Please try to make your own build and take it slowly and just enjoy the game, it's experience like no other as the game is fresh. Also it's still beta, not a final version.

There is not many games made this way today, also poe 1 originally was like that, until it wasn't. Please consider our existence, you have lot of other games to play, we don't. Creators of PoE 2 made it known that they wanted to bring that classic griddy model back and make PoE 1 and PoE 2 separate for each audience.

If you truly want to influence development, it has to be real feedback, devs are very aware of the fact that there are 2 types of people and maybe even they should say that louder, so there would be less hatred, more understanding and no time wasted for these type of posts.

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RitualMurder#3177 เขียน:

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

For me less is more. I can see things on screen, i can make a good character without ever opening a spreadsheet, i can acquire good enough items without opening a probability calculator, I don't have bazzilion rare items to ID, hell I even get excited when something drops now.

Meanwhile poe1 to me is like some asian game with fire works and ding ding sounds where not much matters beside the fireworks and ding dings

if you are only playing the most cancer meta build watching some streamer with 1000 div in gear sure

i play ssf and play whatever the fuck i want in poe and its 100000000000000000x better than poe2, the item and character progress is far superior and the gameplay progress from weak to strong actually feels like im making constant progress poe2 feels like an uphill battle where im always 1 step behind and then end game once you are geared is the exact same as poe1 it just takes too long and isnt fun to get there

not sure why you assumed this from my post. I play exclusively ssf in both games, i even tried ruthless in poe1 thinking it would help with what i mentioned earlier, but it didn't. The amount of loot, and mod magnitudes are off the charts there. i don't even think it matters if you play poe1 trade or ssf these days unless you doing uber ubers