New incinerate not working with pyromantic pact?

With the new version of incinerate requiring mana spent to build up fuel i was wondering if it would still be usable with promantic pact? My understanding is that it wouldnt be but that feels kind of bad as the fire themed ascendancy to have one of the few fire skills basically disabled by one of your notables. Any clarification would be appreciated thank you!
ขุดครั้งสุดท้าย เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2025 07:15:25
I was also looking at the incinerate changes

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Incinerate: Has been reworked, it now requires fuel gained by spending mana to use. It no longer has a mana cost itself, and no longer applies fire exposure. Its cast speed is now fixed and it gains a stage every 0.25 seconds. Its cone length is now 5.8 metres (previously 4.6). It now has 12 maximum stages (previously 8). It no longer creates burning ground by default. Instead, a fire infusion can be consumed to cause it to create ignited ground. Ignited ground radius is now 1.4 metres (previously 0.8 metres). Its minimum gem level is now 13 (previously 5). Beam now has 50% less Ignite Duration (previously 25%), and deals 30% more Damage per Stage (previously 40%). Beam now Ignites as though dealing 190-519 to 285-778 Fire Damage at Gem levels 13 to 20 (previously 112-314 to 183-470).


Based on the wording it sounds like you will need to spend mana on something else to generate "fuel" before you can use it, which kinda suggests they want to force players to work the spell into a skill rotation instead of just running around spamming it. Mana tempest has similar wording in 0.2, requires you to spend mana, and does not work with lifetap or blood magic, so I would guess the new incinerate does not work with pyromantic pact :( . On the other hand, it does a ton more damage, and it was already very strong in 0.2. It will probably be more like a boss melting skill than an all purpose clear. If you can gain fuel while using it then you could use cast on ailment to continually fuel it once you get going i think.

It will probably still benefit from the big boost to spirit from infernalist, and Bringer of Flame is still very relevant for incinerate dps as well.
Flame blast was fun and unique, became sidelined. Incinerate is also unique. I guess it was too much fun.

Combo for everything, Asian market loves combo chains. This is the vision.
They ruined it. Apparently you have to play how they want you to play or sod off.

i was under impression this would help the class to not 'bust'. I was very hesitant on even trying the infernal/demon flame management because it could of bricked my char and in ssf i can't buy my way out of it... am i missing something herE?
I think it would be crazy if it didn't work with the passive. I would expect it to work though.
Why would it be crazy if it didn't work? There are tons of interactions that just don't work with the Lich passive that prevents your life from changing for example. With the adjustments to mana costs Pyromantic Pact seems way more niche to me. The generically strong points of Infernalist ascendancy seem like they will be the big flat boost to spirit and ES that you get, plus the low life/crit stuff the ascendancy enables.

I do think demonform looks worse without granting +skill levels, that change actually surprised me.

Maybe its not the most lore accurate for one passive on the fire caster ascendancy to not work with the best fire spell from last league, but I'm pretty sure the best ascendancies for ignite last league were pathfinder, titan and lich anyways...
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