Bosses shouldnt be affected by waystones mods

They are boss, already strong enough to 1 shot.
Not to mention powerful bosses, they are powerful already.
Add extra damage, attack speed, penetrate res and other mods and you get the perfect unbalanced fight.

Make waystone mods only affects white, magic and rares so the path to boss is harder than usual but the boss fight remains somehow balanced.
If you want more challenge on a boss you can have deli, union of souls n stuff.
Just my 2 cents on the overall mapping balance.

SSF

Do you have points into + boss difficulty? I always forget that shit is on.

None of the bosses feel difficult to me atm, with no points. If they have points, then yes, there will be a wild difference.

The abyssal rares are way harder than normal bosses atm. Even in early maps, they're just dumb. Especially when you get 3 at once, which happens pretty often.

wait, i seem to remember them saying bosses were not going to be affected by mods.

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kazajhodo#6457 เขียน:

SSF

Do you have points into + boss difficulty? I always forget that shit is on.

None of the bosses feel difficult to me atm, with no points. If they have points, then yes, there will be a wild difference.

The abyssal rares are way harder than normal bosses atm. Even in early maps, they're just dumb. Especially when you get 3 at once, which happens pretty often.

I do have 8/8 on boss tree, so they already get their buff thats why adding other layers of buffs leads to unbalanced fights.

They're not difficult because you have 0/8 on the tree and not getting benefit from a tree is kinda useless, expecially when you are literally scared to do so because of how unbalanced the fight will be.

Those rares you struggle with already get buffed by waystone mods so play less dangerous ones?

Rares dont have their tree, just waystones mods, bosses have both and you are always at the same level of defences, no matter boss tree nor waystone mods, like i said "unbalanced".

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

They're not difficult because you have 0/8 on the tree and not getting benefit from a tree

What benefit?

Serious question.

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TheLoCoLacan#8685 เขียน:

wait, i seem to remember them saying bosses were not going to be affected by mods.

Oh they are, just had the monkey dude with attack speed i was running around like a headless chicken :D

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 เขียน:

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

They're not difficult because you have 0/8 on the tree and not getting benefit from a tree

What benefit?

Serious question.

rarity?
Quantity?
Essences, spirits, strongboxes?
+1 level?
50% increased experience?

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 เขียน:

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

They're not difficult because you have 0/8 on the tree and not getting benefit from a tree

What benefit?

Serious question.

rarity?
Quantity?
Essences, spirits, strongboxes?
+1 level?
50% increased experience?

I know what the atlas says. Do you see any actual difference in drops with the nodes specced or unspecced?

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 เขียน:

I know what the atlas says. Do you see any actual difference in drops with the nodes specced or unspecced?

Yep expecially experience which is on 8/8 and most usefull at some point, +1 level leads to 80-81 area level constantly for better drops, i dont care much about middle passives but those 2 make a difference here

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

They are boss, already strong enough to 1 shot.
Not to mention powerful bosses, they are powerful already.
Add extra damage, attack speed, penetrate res and other mods and you get the perfect unbalanced fight.

Make waystone mods only affects white, magic and rares so the path to boss is harder than usual but the boss fight remains somehow balanced.
If you want more challenge on a boss you can have deli, union of souls n stuff.
Just my 2 cents on the overall mapping balance.

That's the joy of POE; difficulty scaling. Map mods on bosses make deadly bosses nearly impossible, dangerous bosses deadly and benign bosses dangerous.

The Monkey is a little bit like a juiced Palace Dominus, Crimson Township boss, or Guardian. Map Tor Gul w/o a red flashing attack can somewhat hit hard now with map mods.

We are probably going to see more resistances and damage reduction added to bosses. We will definitely be getting a bossing league soon. Builds in POE will be good or bad against bosses or specific bosses. The same for mapping and specific layouts. Same, lacking or excelling at specific league mechanics.