Offline trade fee is too much
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Offline trade fee is too much
It effectively converts the game experience for all fresh starters to forced SSF Why? Because your fee is: 1. Actually way too big - 40-70k per item is insane 2. Does not respects the price, set by owner - no matter is it 1 regal or 100 divs - it would be the same 60k 3. 90% of sellers just stopped to use personal (fee-free) trading and prices there became crazy high, even for medicore items. ESPECIALLY at the stage "the league is dead" Maybe, the ones who plays longer they have billions, it's fine for them. But fresh players who are looking for a simple items for 1 regal (which they actually can afford), but the 60k fee is like nonsense. Player have around 200k after all acts (if he actually been clearting all maps pretty well, no speedrunning at all!), so he wont be able to even update all his gear - just 2-3 items The fee should be lowered drastically. P.S. BOTS can run maps and sell all stuff WAY faster and easier than players! So this is NOT valid anti-bot method! It affects (in negative way) only legit players! Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย SilverWF#6383 เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2025 10:06:50 ขุดครั้งสุดท้าย เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2025 16:07:27
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You cannot price items by the owner value.
Why? Because not all owners are smart. The idea of "gold tax" is to prevent endless flip. How effective this is against actual bot trading is questionable. But this is the basic idea behind it. So if you tie the tax to the owner set value, the bots who snipe underpriced items will have them for free essentially. -------------- Side note 1: You can always use the old trading system and whisper people. -------------- Side note 2: 40-70k can be accumulated in half map if you start picking and selling items. Literally takes 5 minutes of gameplay. -------------- Side note 3: You can actually play T1 maps until you find the unique gold reward map on your atlas, and then you will have like a million gold to trade all your gear and re-specialize every single passive point. -------------- Side note 4: You can still farm acts. We used to be able to farm the wolf witch from ACT 1 cruel and get like a 100k gold in no time. With the introduction of act 4 and interludes, you cannot do this anymore, but we found other zones to be useful for catching up. Not optimal but if you are that despaired that you cannot play without buying the best gear from others - this is still an option. |
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" BS That "anti-bot" barrier doesn't affect them at all, because bot can do ALL described methods way faster and easier WAY faster and WAY easier So such BS affects ONLY legit players And as I said, there is noone to wisper after league is dead, like NOW in POE2. If GGG wanna fight bots - so let they fight bots, not players! Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย SilverWF#6383 เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2025 08:47:37
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" I agree that there is very good reason to discuss how effective this type of restriction is against illegal activity. For the sake of the discussion lets say that I support your call to lower it. Or even remove it completely. But it is unlikely that this will happen any time soon. Simply because GGG will disagree with it. So until such time comes, when this is removed, you should be looking for a way to work around it. And what I have been telling you is the short way to happiness. Peace. |
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Slightly lower would be alright.
Personally, I haven't had any issue in affording those prices. Maybe I don't trade quite as much as some other players, but even by when my previous HC char ripped at level 92, the prices weren't hard to manage. You make gold really fast when mapping. The gold cost is an useful tool for limiting flipping, hoarding and bot trading. There's a reason why almost all major games use some kind of a limit to trade, be it trade tax or daily caps or whatnot. And the reason is that without those, things would be much worse for the average player. แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย tzaeru#0912 เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2025 09:59:29
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" BOTS can run maps and sell all stuff WAY faster and easier than players! So this is NOT valid anti-bot method! It affects (in negative way) only legit players! Auctioneer House - is a MUST!
'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 |
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" Adding random capitalization and using excalamation marks for every sentence doesn't add any validity to your message. You are quite wrong here. Firstly, creating a bot that can successfully run maps, gather the loot, sell it to a vendor, etc, is a fair bit more work and maintenance than making a bot that only trades. Secondly, it makes the amount of time per bot instance spent on trading smaller, thus offering some partial protection from bots for the trade system. Thirdly, bots get caught all the time, and the more stuff the bot needs to be able to do and the more time it needs to spend on things other than trading - like running maps - the more chances there are to catch it before its impact on trade is significant. แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย tzaeru#0912 เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2025 10:33:33
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" If a bot is farming maps for gold, etc., then it's basically acting just like another human. Unless it can insta-buy items while mapping for gold at the same time (I doubt). แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย SaiyanZ#3112 เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2025 08:28:01
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" Turn OFF this teaching tone, then we could talk Auctioneer House - is a MUST!
'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 |
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