Offline trade fee is too much

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SaiyanZ#3112 เขียน:

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SilverWF#6383 เขียน:

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tzaeru#0912 เขียน:

The gold cost is an useful tool for limiting flipping, hoarding and bot trading

BOTS can run maps and sell all stuff WAY faster and easier than players! So this is NOT valid anti-bot method! It affects (in negative way) only legit players!

If a bot is farming maps for gold, etc., then it's basically acting just like another human. Unless it can insta-buy items while mapping for gold at the same time (I doubt).

This is absolutely wrong and false generalization

1. There IS such kind of bots.
2. Bots would never tire, they don't need to sleep, eat, they would never get brain issue after completing always the same maps and picking every item around, even maps from acts, which you could repeat infinetely.

Human (sane one) can't do all thet at the same time.

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SilverWF#6383 เขียน:

1. There IS such kind of bots.
2. Bots would never tire, they don't need to sleep, eat, they would never get brain issue after completing always the same maps and picking every item around, even maps from acts, which you could repeat infinetely.

Human (sane one) can't do all thet at the same time.

Maybe send all this info you have to GGG about these bots. Or ask them to employ you.

Yea, it is kind of naive to think GGG support is clueless about existence of such bots.

As far as I know, when they catch them, they make it so that they get nothing more of transmutation and wisdom scrolls.

Besides botting they can suspect you for RMT as well. So this also gets handled.

Now the big question is, if you have a room full of asian gamers, that provide service for money, like gold farming, boss carry, leveling etc...

I mean, those are not bots, so what we do?

One person who is motivated and smart can do a lot more than a program cycling simulacrum...

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Skellymancer#5263 เขียน:

One person who is motivated and smart can do a lot more than a program cycling simulacrum...

Again: Bots would never tire, they don't need to sleep, eat, make poo, they would never get brain issue after completing 1000s the same maps and picking every item around, even maps from acts, which you could repeat infinetely.

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SilverWF#6383 เขียน:

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Skellymancer#5263 เขียน:

One person who is motivated and smart can do a lot more than a program cycling simulacrum...

Again: Bots would never tire, they don't need to sleep, eat, make poo, they would never get brain issue after completing 1000s the same maps and picking every item around, even maps from acts, which you could repeat infinetely.

This is "theoretical" infinity.
Realistically this is 24 hours before they catch you.

Do 6 hours shifts, run them at random times, interact only through guild stash - great, you prolonged it a bit. Maybe even evaded it.

Now what is the difference if you have a company hiring 10 dudes, that besides "campaign maps", can provide leveling, gold farming, boss, trials, unique items and play smart with mega juice.

Go search how to farm gold in poe2 and you will see adds for 2 million gold for 5$.

And suddenly your bots are not really superior.

I think fee is ok. It requires you play the game instead of just trading because you have to play to get gold, so you get other things too and feed the economic system.

It is not an anti-bot measure.