Please stop rewarding group play with more drops（every season post this till ggg make changes）

The quantity and quality of loot dropped in a map should be entirely dependent on factors such as the number and quality of monsters in the map, and the rarity of the player opening the map.

Currently, a group of six players entering the same map will receive a massive bonus to the number of loot drops, while a single player will receive far fewer.

In other words, GGG is indirectly rewarding studios and players who use automated cheats (programs that automatically move characters or complete other commands) to form multiplayer groups. GGG is encouraging this type of cheating. At the same time, GGG has not imposed strict bans or restrictions on players who use cheats or other similar methods, resulting in severe in-game economic exploitation for all other players who do not use these methods. This happens almost every season.

The most valuable rewards for multiplayer teams in this game shouldn't simply be an increase in the number of loot drops on a map (because that's illogical. All loot comes from killing monsters or opening chests. As long as the number of monsters in a map doesn't increase, the number of loot drops shouldn't increase regardless of how many players enter the map). Instead, they should be the following:

1. On a high-difficulty map, with a 6-player team, if the team is well-matched, even if each of the 6 team members has relatively low gear, they can still combine well together, allowing them to easily clear the map.

2. On a normal-difficulty map, with a 6-player team, if the team is well-matched, even if each of the 6 team members has relatively low gear, they can still combine well together, increasing their speed in clearing the map.

3. Other rewards that don't rely on the number or rarity of dropped items.

Thanks for watching.

You do know that those maps they run cost like 8-9 divs to make right?

"

Hyperspacing#5593 เขียน:

You do know that those maps they run cost like 8-9 divs to make right?

I'm talking about cheating and drop logic. You're talking about map making cost.

Not on the same page.

"

Currently, a group of six players entering the same map will receive a massive bonus to the number of loot drops, while a single player will receive far fewer.

Yes because they have to divide their loot by six. If the fact that groups get the appropriate amount of loot is somehow abused (although I suspect the issue is negligible, like most of those kinds of allegations) than the have to find a way to prevent abuse, not punish groups.

Quite dumm request. Find a party and play to have a chance for same amount of loot. Or.. may be, before requesting nerf for last possible party play strat, try to use you head not only as food input and calculate all their (i assume ur talking about Empirian) profit for a week+ of play. And they play more then 2-3h after work, lol. A week! Then devide it to 6, as there are 6 ppl playn.

"

Badabums#2676 เขียน:

Quite dumm request. Find a party and play to have a chance for same amount of loot. Or.. may be, before requesting nerf for last possible party play strat, try to use you head not only as food input and calculate all their (i assume ur talking about Empirian) profit for a week+ of play. And they play more then 2-3h after work, lol. A week! Then devide it to 6, as there are 6 ppl playn.

No no, far easier to just whine and call it cheating.

It doesn't matter how many times it's explained, or someone (like Empy) shows the breakdown. Feels > Facts, it doesn't matter that the best solo farming methods give more profit (per player) than juiced group play.

"

Badabums#2676 เขียน:

Quite dumm request. Find a party and play to have a chance for same amount of loot. Or.. may be, before requesting nerf for last possible party play strat, try to use you head not only as food input and calculate all their (i assume ur talking about Empirian) profit for a week+ of play. And they play more then 2-3h after work, lol. A week! Then devide it to 6, as there are 6 ppl playn.

Not even wrong

if your IQ is not enough to understand cheat and automatic programs, please close your mouth.

if your IQ is not enough to understand economic exploitation, please close your mouth.

if your IQ is not enough to undestand the item drop logic and reasonable reward mechanism, please close your mouth.

don't be a joker and show your funny IQ here, thanks.

refresh

Lmao. With very little exception from 1, group play has ALWAYS been less profitable than efficient solo play. Empy talked about it again in his recent video. 6 Div on a single map is the same as a solo player getting 1 Div in a map.

OP never played in a party apparently.
Also many statements, zero sources.
Seems like a "others are rich and I am not, they must be cheating, waahhh!".
I'll pass on this one.