[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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zaboleqqq เขียน:

Hello,

First of all, thanks for this great build. It is not soo boring like Ancestral Warchief and I think it is even more powerfull and fun.

I have question regarding bow. Currently I'm using Death's Harp and I need a change. I can get 180 DPS rare bow or can buy Dath's Opus for like 15-20C. My question is how much "additional arrow" affect DPS. For example Death's Opus fire 2 additional arrows and it has 180 DPS but additional arrow does not affect DPS formula, right(at least it is not included in the formula)?

How Death's Opus compare with for example 200 DPS bow with the same attack speed? Is 300 DPS rare bow better than Death's Opus? I'm asking because I know that I will not be able to buy Reach of the Council in near future and I'm trying to figure out which bow should I choose.

OP said that Death's Opus is great choice but it has kind low DPS. Lioneyer glare has 300 dps (even more with 100% chance for hit) but does not fire additional arrow.

Opus is the second best bow for this build. The primary damage from this build comes from the Added Chaos Damage gem, which doesn't account for any base damage stats on the bow itself (as evidenced by the white crude bow Shaper kill by OP). 2 additional arrows is incredibly strong, and 150% crit multiplier is HUGE.

Don't concern yourself over the seemingly "low" DPS numbers of the bow itself. Next to Reach it's best in slot.

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daleyyc เขียน:

For main attack, what would be the difference in damage between Empower (4) vs. Void Manipulation?

Main attack meaning Barrage? Or Lightning Arrow?

Either way, Void Manipulation double dips, as it boosts your initial Chaos damage hit, and then boosts the poison damage caused by the initial hit. It's a "more" modifier so it's multiplicative. I can't imagine a situation where Empower would be better.

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Rathke เขียน:

How should I go about early itemizing?

I'm starting the char and I figure I'll be able to afford a 5L death's opus and a 5L queen by the time I'm in dried Lake, but no extra arrow drillneck, dying sun or on hit curse gloves.

So with only 3 arrows from the bow, should I still drop gmp/lmp from my LA setup?

With Opus i went with LMP, so you still get the 5 arrow spread like GMP. You want to cover AoE range effectively without hampering your damage too much. LMP is a good balance. LMP/Opus would only maybe become an issue as you start to tackle the highest tier maps. I think with good enough gear (rings/ammy/gems leveled) you'll be just fine with Opus/LMP.

thanks for great build

i have question armor link.

i use this



question is

this link is current color best or better than other gems?

i dont try again color change

it's so hard.

Probably not worth recoloring but Culling Strike, Faster Attacks, and Faster Projectiles are probably all good options.

Hi all. I play this build but i have problems with Shaper... i fail 2 runs :( can't get pass 1st phase... Here is my Items:


I know i don't have 21/20 Added chaos. I leveling 2 atm. And i dont have +2 Barrage proj. But cmphx melt the shaper with white bow... Any advices please :( ?

I've got a Death's Opus now. Should I still use GMP or switch to slower projectiles?

Thanks in advance!

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dzyamflysein เขียน:

I've got a Death's Opus now. Should I still use GMP or switch to slower projectiles?

Thanks in advance!

Either LMP or Slower Proj. Most people go with LMP though, for more area.

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stoqnbg เขียน:

Hi all. I play this build but i have problems with Shaper... i fail 2 runs :( can't get pass 1st phase... Here is my Items:

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I know i don't have 21/20 Added chaos. I leveling 2 atm. And i dont have +2 Barrage proj. But cmphx melt the shaper with white bow... Any advices please :( ?

It is normal to fail at shaper. I myselft follow the guide as well and failed shaper the first time. We have to assume that our characters do not have such good jewels, +3 barrage arrows from the enchant and corrupted drillneck, corrupted gloves are huge bonus as well, we are lower level as well wich means we have either lower hp or damage that his character. The lack of knowlidge of the fight with shaper is other thing.

с две думи: събирай 50 екзалта за девото и дрилнек и тогава ще си позволиш да влезеш при шейпъра.

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daleyyc เขียน:

For main attack, what would be the difference in damage between Empower (4) vs. Void Manipulation?

empower does almost nothing, since it only applies to the lightning arrow gem, not the supports, so use voidmanip

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GGZII เขียน:

I have killed uber deathless once, and the other two times I lost 3 portals to the last atziri phase. Then it struck me that my gloves have temp chains on hit so for the last portion of the fight I have temporal chains on myself. Now this makes atziri tick down quicker and throw slower but I also have it.

Is it better to just get rid of the gloves? Or swap out for the atziri fight, that must mean you have vulnerability for the final stage right?

yaeh as i posted in the gearing part, i dont use CoH gloves for uber, but the witchfire flask instead. getting tempchain reflected back to you is not nice :D

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gisangsu เขียน:

thanks for great build

i have question armor link.

i use this

question is

this link is current color best or better than other gems?

i dont try again color change

it's so hard.

looks good, you can keep it. be aware though that the chest has no evasion ,and you'll be alot less tanky with it.

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stoqnbg เขียน:

Hi all. I play this build but i have problems with Shaper... i fail 2 runs :( can't get pass 1st phase... Here is my Items:

สปอยล์

I know i don't have 21/20 Added chaos. I leveling 2 atm. And i dont have +2 Barrage proj. But cmphx melt the shaper with white bow... Any advices please :( ?

your gear is fine. But you will want to use a wither totem, as i posted in the gearing part. it is very important and will double your damage output if placed correctly.

keep practicing, dont give up. make sure your frenzies are at max (4) charges and dont get hit by the stuff he shoots.

can anyone explain to me if pierce or iron grip is better for this build and why? Also is point blank key stone good here?

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stoqnbg เขียน:

can anyone explain to me if pierce or iron grip is better for this build and why? Also is point blank key stone good here?

I think you saw Lioneye's Vision chest and forgot that it has "Socketed Gems supported by lvl 15 Pierce" modifier on it.

If you use Iron Grip instead of Pierce: your Projectiles will have 50-60% to Pierce, so you lose 40-50% projectile damage from Drillneck(same benefit you get from gem).
So you exchange 19% more projectile modifier with 10 increased projectile with damage from strength which should be around 35-40 increased...

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cmphx เขียน:

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gisangsu เขียน:

thanks for great build

i have question armor link.

i use this

question is

this link is current color best or better than other gems?

i dont try again color change

it's so hard.

looks good, you can keep it. be aware though that the chest has no evasion ,and you'll be alot less tanky with it.

I should do calculations before posting, but I'm very lazy now...
In his situation Poison might be substitute for Iron Grip. He would lose initial hit damage and do less poison damage, but increased poison duration from gem might even out a bit. And that would free him from clutches of Snakebite and he could choose different gloves.