[3.8] What a Shocking Tri-Element Trapper! [Fire/Ice Trap build][UberAtziri/Shaper Video]

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Angry_Roleplayer เขียน:

And i think it's terrible. Even t10 boss take forever (compared to what a classic spellcaster or a melee build can do.. hell... even a MINER). I am not even talking about anything higher. Traps simply have no single target damage for boss killer. With increased boss like it is absolutely insane and most of the time not worth it fightning bosses at all. I was so desperate i even wanted to try spell totem with scorching ray. Bear Trap is complete garbage. Ice Trap has mediocre dps but still twice less than a frostbolt mine (even full crit). Fire Trap = same. DPS is simply mot there. Also add clunky cooldowns and greatly reduced damage with multiple+cluster traps and the result = poo dps. I wish Traps were good, but they terribly suffer against bosses now and high tier maps are also a pain.
After a 7 minute fight with Chimera i really wonder how it is "not terrible". Not all map bosses stand still, waiting to be killed, most of them have very nasty and deadly mechanics. So i wonder how are you supposed to kill them with that build. I cannot even effectively kill Strand double bosses, they are very fast and both have a tonn of hp now.

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MrMoho เขียน:

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Angry_Roleplayer เขียน:

And i think it's terrible. Even t10 boss take forever (compared to what a classic spellcaster or a melee build can do.. hell... even a MINER). I am not even talking about anything higher. Traps simply have no single target damage for boss killer. With increased boss like it is absolutely insane and most of the time not worth it fightning bosses at all. I was so desperate i even wanted to try spell totem with scorching ray. Bear Trap is complete garbage. Ice Trap has mediocre dps but still twice less than a frostbolt mine (even full crit). Fire Trap = same. DPS is simply mot there. Also add clunky cooldowns and greatly reduced damage with multiple+cluster traps and the result = poo dps. I wish Traps were good, but they terribly suffer against bosses now and high tier maps are also a pain.
After a 7 minute fight with Chimera i really wonder how it is "not terrible". Not all map bosses stand still, waiting to be killed, most of them have very nasty and deadly mechanics. So i wonder how are you supposed to kill them with that build. I cannot even effectively kill Strand double bosses, they are very fast and both have a tonn of hp now.

As I said, Chimera keeps taking forever as he tends to port around all over the place and loves to take a nap on the ledge. Looking at that fight, I actually messed up my trap throws quite a bit, as well. I admit, it is not a clean video, but I just wanted to get a high quality video out for people to see how this build works.

Also, I dunno, you must be doing something wrong with those lower tier bosses, then. I killed bosses along the way in no time at all. Except the T13 Warband leaders. Those have been buffed in health far too much.

Also, I hope that PleaseBuffTraps is not the one you complain about not being able to kill bosses with, because if so, I am not surprised you got trouble.

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Angry_Roleplayer เขียน:

Do you have any recording of any decent boss fight except Chimera? Collonade for example..? I loaded you in PoB and you have around 40k dps on Fire Trap. It's not bad, but still low for traps to be viable

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MrMoho เขียน:

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Angry_Roleplayer เขียน:

Do you have any recording of any decent boss fight except Chimera? Collonade for example..? I loaded you in PoB and you have around 40k dps on Fire Trap. It's not bad, but still low for traps to be viable

I get 60k and that's not DPS but the average hit damage. Also, PoB does not properly apply Elemental Equlibrium. I actually get minus dps by skilling it for some reason. So, I suppose slap 50% on top of that damage and you get your average Fire Trap damage... which is only one of three damage skills you use in this build.

Edit: I actually fumbled around a bit and figured that it does add the damage of Elemental Equilibrium and BitS if configurated properly... but not the extra damage per Trap from Bomb Specialist. So, without the 9x8% increased damage I came up with a average damage of 92k agaisnt a non-shocked enemy and one of 138k that is shocked. Still, Bomb Specialist is missing, which is a lot of extra damage not shown. Also, remember, this is Average Damage, not DPS. You can throw around 3 traps per second, so go from there.

Also, let me see what I can do with that recording. Colonnade would be a bit silly with my equipment and level, but maybe a T15 map.

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Angry_Roleplayer เขียน:

Yeah i know PoB does not calculate most "increased damage" from ascendancies, but still. The only thing i need to know is HOW to kill bosses with traps now. Trash mobs are not a problem, i melt maps in 2 minutes with my build.
I think your build is very creative, three traps is quite a lot of "work" to throw. But overall with double dipping gone, ailments are super weak now and all these ignites are hardly 10% of your normal damage.

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adr0it เขียน:

Please do a leveling guide!! Build looks like it's challenging and a lot of fun!