[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

thx for all your help mika.

tried uberelder for the first time ever and died only once before i killed him.
my phase run was interupted when my cwdt setup triggered. was too slow to dodge his hammersmash becouse of it.

removed the cwdt setup and tried 3 link guardian with empower+minionlife and he survived the fight without problems.
I do not understand, how can I summon more than one spectrum?
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Armand_Uchiha เขียน:
I do not understand, how can I summon more than one spectrum?


+1 from boots (Bones of Ullr or fossil-crafted +1 specter boots -> you have crafting instruction in FAQ section)
+1 from the Skilltree (top-left side from Witch starting point)
(optional) +1 from Vis Mortis armour (if you drop Skin of the Loyal)
You know mika, after getting 40/40 thought I would try a different build, gotta say, you tainted other builds. This build is too strong.

Invested about 13 EX into a Molten Strike Jugg build, and see why people like it, and maybe it's because I played golems too long, but just does not feel anywhere as good as this build to me. I mean lab feels better on the Jugg, but that's a no brainer.

Anywho, thanks for the build that pushed me to 40/40 in Betrayal. Last time I used it was Abyss and my last 40/40 was Abyss, not a coincidence.

I might dip out next league so I don't burn myself out on POE, but I'll be back to try out the new additions I'm sure you'll tweak to this build sometime soon.

Thanks again.
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Jigbod เขียน:
Thanx a bunch!

Your recommendation was a winner, just followed your advice to the letter. I fibbled around with the nodes as you said, raised ES way up, aswell as minion DPS.. never killed shaper as fast as i do now..:D

A bit improvement, i traded out the ES helm (100 ES) and the rings aswell as the boots.. what do you think? 2.3K HP and 6.3K ES .. would love a "Bone helmet" with same stats as my "Fluted Bascinet", but then i must sell my last kidney, and i kinda need it! :D

New POB: https://pastebin.com/JDnU7pTU
Old POB: https://pastebin.com/9wgbXXFq

You made the game new again! Im having so much fun! *giggles*

Cheers

/Jigbod

PS: If you have a spot free in your guild, im queuing! :D



Hello :)

Glad to hear it helped ^^

Btw you can drop heart & soul and Arcanist Dominion from tree as your tree is already connected from ES nodes below. The spell damage wont increase golems damage at all.

Helmet has no ES or HP, which lowers EHP quite a bit. Maybe upgrade is later? Rest of the gear looks pretty ok, but rare items can always be upgraded later. Bone helmet has pretty low ES. I would take 150 ES helmet with 6 or 7-link over bone helmet myself.

I would go for "Nullification" in tree as you get EHP (HP + ES) and resistances from that part of the tree.

Overall looks pretty good. You should have smooth sailing through endgame ;)

Unfortunately there is no queue for the guild as it would be dozens of players long all the time as active guild members very rarely want to leave. It's basically fastest get in when new slots open after offline player cleanup in new league or when we sometimes get donations.


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thx for all your help mika.

tried uberelder for the first time ever and died only once before i killed him.
my phase run was interupted when my cwdt setup triggered. was too slow to dodge his hammersmash becouse of it.

removed the cwdt setup and tried 3 link guardian with empower+minionlife and he survived the fight without problems.


Hi!

Gz on Uber Elder kill! \o/

Glad to hear that AG survived UE fight alive. I have been wondering what is the point with supports that will let AG survive, but now I have better idea of that :)



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I do not understand, how can I summon more than one spectrum?


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+1 from boots (Bones of Ullr or fossil-crafted +1 specter boots -> you have crafting instruction in FAQ section)
+1 from the Skilltree (top-left side from Witch starting point)
(optional) +1 from Vis Mortis armour (if you drop Skin of the Loyal)


Hey :)

Yep,
1x gem
1x tree
1x boots
1x Armor (optinal)


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You know mika, after getting 40/40 thought I would try a different build, gotta say, you tainted other builds. This build is too strong.

Invested about 13 EX into a Molten Strike Jugg build, and see why people like it, and maybe it's because I played golems too long, but just does not feel anywhere as good as this build to me. I mean lab feels better on the Jugg, but that's a no brainer.

Anywho, thanks for the build that pushed me to 40/40 in Betrayal. Last time I used it was Abyss and my last 40/40 was Abyss, not a coincidence.

I might dip out next league so I don't burn myself out on POE, but I'll be back to try out the new additions I'm sure you'll tweak to this build sometime soon.

Thanks again.


Hello :)

Yep, I know exactly the feeling. The laziness or 1-hand playing is just too tempting. The comforting safety of Temp Chains and automated damage from minions lets me watch Youtube in second screen while I clear t15 maps 1-handed ;)

I have already next improvements in testing :
- Discipline will most likely join Phase Run links and replace Efficacy as it has such slow added value to Phase Run
- Storm Brand will join CWDT setup with Convocation. This lets you keep automatic EE up as long as you take damage even sometimes. Boosts DPS hugely in harder fights where it's not possible to cast Winter Orb all the time
- For offence necro setup, Puppet Master will replace Mistress of Sacrifice. Convocation in CWDT will auto cast minion skill from time to time and keep the 40% increased minion damage buff up

CWDT will keep both extra EE skill and minion damage from Puppet Master up most of the time and supports 1-handed play-style even more while also boosting DPS heavily. It's not official most likely before next league but feel free to test it if your interested.

Gz on hitting the 40/40 again and take is easy at least until next league, hope to hear from you soon again ^^
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
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mika2salo เขียน:
I have already next improvements in testing :
- Discipline will most likely join Phase Run links and replace Efficacy as it has such slow added value to Phase Run


iam running my setup like this already and prefer it actually.
the 0.3 second duration you loose on phase run are barely noticable if you count in the reaction time to recast the spell.
as necro i have 3.7 duration on 4s cd which is good enough.

but what i recommend most is using vaal discipline. i even switched out my regular lvl21 discipline for a lvl20 vaal version, its only 4es less.
but the utility of vaal discipline is awesome as a panic button.
works like a really OP flask but for ES. thx to the link to duration support it gives around 3000 ES regen for over 6 seconds. saved me several times.



Hi,

I use storm call + less duration + flammability + curse on hit
and elemental equilibrium

I mark mobs with storm call so they get -50% -%44 fire resist
and they melt this way easily...

is there any better way to apply ee + flammability?

and another question: when my hp gets to 0, do I die?
I saw a couple of times, I did not die, I had 0 hp and full es...
not sure how did it happen though, I thought I should die, but did not die LOL...

I have a body armour which I try to 6L. Do I get 4% max life on kill if my golems kill? because I dont kill anything, just golems do... and I use 8+1+1 (flame+ice+light) setup and I feel this is best...

Vaal Regalia
สปอยล์
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Energy Shield: 559 (augmented)
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+80 to maximum Energy Shield
110% increased Energy Shield
+122 to maximum Life
+48% to Lightning Resistance
Recover 4% of Maximum Life on Kill
16% increased Stun and Block Recovery
--------
Elder Item

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mika2salo เขียน:


For Uber Elder :

Necro

Drop Necromantic Aegis and use Kaltensoul or Aegis Aurora. Shaper deals both ice and fire damage so Kaltensoul gives dual resistances.

Occultist / Elementalist

Use Necromantic Aegis and Kaltensoul to boost Spectres resistances especially if you are not using helmet with minion life. Missing 100% life from Soul Weaver makes TV Specs more vulnerable against Uber Elder.

All

Use Purity of Ice instead of curses and few Sapphire Flasks. Stacking as much cold res on you & minions as possible is important for survival.

Try to run around bosses so that you have both bosses in sight. Keep Phase Run up as much as possible and be ready to hit cold res flask if Shaper beam hits you.



I'm getting on here to say thank you. I loved the Necro build in Abyss and I came back for Betrayal and wanted to do a little something different. BAM an Occultist variation. I will say I did start with that from the start and followed it instead of switching. I didn't see any problem at all, but I might have been familiar with what to expect from previous run.

Anyway, I wasn't able to get to far with the Necro build the first time due to not being good at getting currency and I also couldn't keep AG alive which was just throwing money out the window.

This time though.. I killed Uber Elder for the first time. This is how I ran around doing it. It took 2 tries, but I did it. My only issue (I don't have the `supported by minion life` on helm) was that sometimes my TVs just got blown away.. and on a rare occasion my golems. I turned off a curse to re-summon mid fight.
I see now I had to change things around... but I did end up beating it when I put on the OAK for regen on minion life, I didn't think about resists. I picked up a cheap Watcher's eye that helped a lot also.

Anyway, I'm almost done with the league, but I was wondering where I could _potentially_ improve my gear (outside +1 flame golem minion and +1 SotL those are easy wins)

I ran out of cash buying that Watcher's Eye.

Thanks again and keep up the good work.

This is the best minion build - Change my mind.
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iam running my setup like this already and prefer it actually.
the 0.3 second duration you loose on phase run are barely noticable if you count in the reaction time to recast the spell.
as necro i have 3.7 duration on 4s cd which is good enough.

but what i recommend most is using vaal discipline. i even switched out my regular lvl21 discipline for a lvl20 vaal version, its only 4es less.
but the utility of vaal discipline is awesome as a panic button.
works like a really OP flask but for ES. thx to the link to duration support it gives around 3000 ES regen for over 6 seconds. saved me several times.


Hello :)

I added note to upgrade Discipline to Vaal Discipline later, thanks for notice! I vope Vaal Discipline 21/20 didn't cost almost as much as decent Watchers Eye...

I will be testing which gem is good addition to the CWDT links with Convocation. So far Storm Brand seems excellent as it keeps EE up for 10 seconds after taking a hit.


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Hi,

I use storm call + less duration + flammability + curse on hit
and elemental equilibrium

I mark mobs with storm call so they get -50% -%44 fire resist
and they melt this way easily...

is there any better way to apply ee + flammability?

and another question: when my hp gets to 0, do I die?
I saw a couple of times, I did not die, I had 0 hp and full es...
not sure how did it happen though, I thought I should die, but did not die LOL...

I have a body armour which I try to 6L. Do I get 4% max life on kill if my golems kill? because I dont kill anything, just golems do... and I use 8+1+1 (flame+ice+light) setup and I feel this is best...

Vaal Regalia


Hey :)

Safest way to spread curse is :
Ball Lightning -> GMP -> Curse on hit -> curse
Spreads cuurse to 1/2 screen at once.

Yep, if your HP goes to 0 you die. Maybe you still had some life but didn't notice it? Below 100 life becomes almost invisible when you focus on screen instead of bars.

You don't get on kill bonuses from Golems, but you get them when Tukohama Vanguards kill them. Kills are always awarded to the killer (minion in this case), unless the damage is damage-over-time. Then it's awarded to minions summoner.


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I'm getting on here to say thank you. I loved the Necro build in Abyss and I came back for Betrayal and wanted to do a little something different. BAM an Occultist variation. I will say I did start with that from the start and followed it instead of switching. I didn't see any problem at all, but I might have been familiar with what to expect from previous run.

Anyway, I wasn't able to get to far with the Necro build the first time due to not being good at getting currency and I also couldn't keep AG alive which was just throwing money out the window.

This time though.. I killed Uber Elder for the first time. This is how I ran around doing it. It took 2 tries, but I did it. My only issue (I don't have the `supported by minion life` on helm) was that sometimes my TVs just got blown away.. and on a rare occasion my golems. I turned off a curse to re-summon mid fight.
I see now I had to change things around... but I did end up beating it when I put on the OAK for regen on minion life, I didn't think about resists. I picked up a cheap Watcher's eye that helped a lot also.

Anyway, I'm almost done with the league, but I was wondering where I could _potentially_ improve my gear (outside +1 flame golem minion and +1 SotL those are easy wins)

I ran out of cash buying that Watcher's Eye.

Thanks again and keep up the good work.

This is the best minion build - Change my mind.


Thanks for support ^^

Gz on very nice Uber Elder kill! \o/
You even did it the hard way as you lost minions during the fight.

The siphon slowdown + Shaper beam / balls is annoying and instant death if you get caught in it. The sole reason I usually cheese the fight with huge movement speed run faster than Shaper can slam or Elder siphon :P

You gear seems pretty good. Its high-end just before min-maxing.

Short list :
- Helmet with minion life added and 150 ES
- Other ring has only 22 ES
- I prefer 90+ ES boots with Spec myself
- Gloves could have 150 ES
- Clayshaper could have increased area of effect corruption
- Emp 4 & Enhance 4 would be grear
- Crystal Belt has no ES added in lower lines
- Use blessed orbs to roll all upper lines to max (belt at least)
- Swap Storm burst to Winter Orb, it works much better

Swapping to Winter Orbs is basically free, but rest can cost quite a lot. However endgame is for min-maxing builds :)
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
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mika2salo เขียน:

- Swap Storm burst to Winter Orb, it works much better

Swapping to Winter Orbs is basically free, but rest can cost quite a lot. However endgame is for min-maxing builds :)


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. I did at one point and, in fact, its sitting in my inventory. I find doing Delves with Winter Orb great, as I can pause following the cart and then do basically what you were saying above - just run to the node.

However, much can be said about directing your minions into a direction that I couldn't seem to do with Winter Orb. I also I miss the days of throwing a totem out and doing a ball spread covering the room. :)

I figured it came down to preference/play style - I found myself pausing to charge up a lot which ended up being the same as stopping to shooting Storm Burst and my minions running after them.

Thanks for the short list.. I missed a few of those. I did use a bless orb on a few of my pieces..

I had a trade filter setup I would monitor for boots/rings/gloves that were similar to "My Gear" section... nothing would even show up most of the time... I had to back off my numbers for options. Min-max I suppose.

Thanks again! I'll be back again, looking forward to new changes!
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