[3.6] Vieira's Magma Orb Miner (Guardians,Shaper,Uber and uber elder viable)

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Iyuke เขียน:

Hi,
I have played this build in 3.3 Incursion as the Trap variant and managed to kill Uber elder and the rest of the gang with it but mostly did HoGM Farming.
Is the Trapper Variant still viable after the last 2 patches or only as a Miner?

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gvieira เขียน:

First thing you need to know: IT LAGS A LOT! But is playable on good PCs

I made this build as a "meme" build, and ended being really fun to play with and viable for every content of the game.

Pros:

You can do literally any map mod.
Really insane clear speed.
Gigantic aoe.
Viable with really cheap equipment.
Insane DPS on bosses.
Can do guardians/uber/shaper/uber elder.
Can do hall of grandmasters.
PvP viable. (trust me, they won't see it coming)
It's beautiful.

Cons:

IT LAGS A LOT.
It's a little flask dependable.
You have to press a lot of buttons.
Guardians on HC will probably be a problem.

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Uber Elder video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGbVbymdXw

UPDATE FOR 3.4:

With the trap nerfs It's probably not worth to do the trap version anymore.

Minefield got a HUGE nerf. I suggest to not use it anymore, replace with trap/mine damage, conc effect or fire pen.

The Instant detonate mines will help A LOT with the weird mine playstyle and will help with the damage as well.

UPDATE FOR 3.2:

On 3.2 the saboteur ascendancy got a really nice buff for mines. With Pyromanic you get 20% regen on bosses without any effort and at least 10% regen while clearing a map.

The build is now less flask dependable.

The Blind node is now decent, and helps a lot on bosses.

on 3.3 we just got a huge buff on clear speed. Everything else is almost the same. We also got a few free points because of the tree changes.

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TREE

Path of building (miner) Updated to 3.4: https://pastebin.com/vUNbZPSN
Path of building (trapper): https://pastebin.com/jzuyyfpy (outdated, it's not worth to use it with traps anymore)

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Bandit: Kill all

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GEAR

Most important item (Can be 5L):

Helm with +2 magma orb chains:

Aditional mine gives 33% more damage overall. 50% if you are not using minefield. Shaper preffix increased AoE is a bonus, it helps a lot the orb of storms to proc ele overload.

Really cheap rares:

Get equipment with life + dex and resists. Craft mine laying speed on the belt (tora 7).

You NEED 25% + movement speed on your boots. It helps a lot.

I use Bubonic Trail for the 2 abyss jewel slots that gives a lot of damage and life. You can use rare boots with ms%, life and resists instead.

The amulet needs to be a gloomfang. It gives so much damage, mostly on bosses:

You can change for karui ward for mapping because of the projectile speed, but it's not necessary at all.

Gloves:

Tombfist is the best option for the gloves slot. It's really cheap and the 2 jewels gives a lot of life and damage.

You can use a winds of change for the projectile speed while clearing maps, but it's not necessary at all.

Chest options:

I'm using a belly because with so many abyss jewels with flat life, the 40% gives a lot of life (800~900).

If you don't use a cwdt setup, you may use a kaom's heart.

Other options are carcass jack, a rare chest or Shroud of the Lightless.

Shroud of the Lightless is only good because of the jewel slot, life and mana. The penetration isn't usefull.


Flasks:

The most important flasks are the Lavianga's Spirit and the Quicksilver.

One life flask is enough. I'm using two (blood if the karui) only for uber elder.

Other options are Atziri's promise, wise oak and Dying Sun.

I change flasks a lot.

Those are the ones I'm using overall:

Jewels:

you will use two inevitability jewels

Get flat life + spell damage.

Magma orb has 125% effetiveness, so any flat spell damage increases your damage a lot.

If you get a non-abyss jewel, you should get those with life and mine laying speed. The other mods are any damage mods for projectiles/fire/spell/area.

You can also use Clear Mind, since you are not reserving any mana.

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GEMS

Links on the sire of shards:

Magma orb - Remote mine - Trap/mine damage - Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster projectiles (slower for bosses)

You can use Conc Effect or Fire pen instead of faster/slower projectiles. The projectiles are fast enough already.

I suggest to not use minefield anymore. But it could be good for mapping in general.

For a 5L you can drop either controlled destruction or faster projectiles

Try to get a lvl 21 magma orb. It gives 1 more chain.

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To proc Elemental Overload AND arcane surge buff you can use this setup:

Orb of storms - increased crit - faster casting - arcane surge (lvl 8)

If you have a helm with shaper's AoE you can use a lvl 9 arcane surge.

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Spell Totem - Detonate Mines

This setup is usefull on some bosses.

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Flame Dash - Faster casting is really usefull on bosses. Mostly on uber elder fight.

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Cwdt (1) - Immortal call (3) - Increased duration (high lvl/quality)

With this setup you can use a low lvl curse too. Like projectile weakness for offense or enfeeble/temp chain for a more defensive setup.

You can put a vaal lightning trap or vaal clarity on this setup to benefit from the increased duration gem.


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Another option is a 6L belly with 5 off colors (blue) for a 6L orb of storms with curse on hit, but it's not necessary at all.

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ASCENDANCY

In that order:

Bomb Specialist
Demolitions Specialist
Pyromaniac

For uber lab points you can choose a defensive setup with Born in the Shadows or offensive setup with Explosives Expert.

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VIDEOS

[3.2 - Bestiary]

Uber elder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGbVbymdXw
All 4 guardians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7EBFUyPXSM

OLD VIDEOS:

Those next videos are from 3.0, on 3.2 the damage is way better

Please consider that I recorded those videos in a machine with a 3rd generation i5 and a 550 Ti, and it lags a lot more when my OBS is recording.
Should be a lot smoother on better PCs.

Mud Geyser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnbadWMMQJY
Mud Geyser with 3 jewels with projectile speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul96bPUFycw
Vaults: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvDLWMAStFg
Atziri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLqts_9Fxe0
Uber Atziri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKWF6laRG4
Shaper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHr1UMjUpQ
Sarn Arena (AoE showoff): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaKs-7LaQ2s
Hall of Grandmasters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wAI3B-m0jM

Other comments

In hall of grandmasters I can't kill the full block ones with mines. For them I use a 5L staff with scorching ray - swift afliction - ele focus - controlled destructions - burning damage

I don't like tremor rod at all, but it can be a good option for bosses.
For even more damage on bosses I'll probably get a +3 fire staff.

Try to be at at least half mana all the time.

On bosses like uber atziri trio you can use righteous fire for 40% more damage! Just spam some mines before activating and you will be fine.

On uber elder use 2 life flasks, a quicksilver, an aquamarine and lavianga's. Your flame dash is your best friend in that fight.

QoL tip for miners:

Go to options and bind your "Attack in place" key to any of the NUMPAD numbers. For example: Numpad 5
You hold the key 5 on the numpad and press numlock while holding it.
Now you can stop pressing the 5 key and even enable numlock again if you want.

Until you close your game, all the skills are with attack in place, including mines, like if you were holding shift.