(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

@Kelerain:

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I rolled 25% quality for easier linking later


If you're sure you're going to be using this bow, then it would be a decent amount cheaper to fossil craft the quality as close to 30 as possible, then craft with the bench a 4c mod that can add up to 18%q, then link the bow, *before* starting the crafting process :)

@grimjack68: tyty, glad you like the bow :D

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You could beastcraft an imprint just before the Beast craft -1 suffix, +1 prefix step


I believe the bow is already rare at this point, so you can't imprint it, or did I miss something?
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แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย niuage#2922 เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2020 03:11:40
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Edit: Well, I ran the numbers in PoB and plugged them into the spreadsheet, and I was incorrect. This method gives some wicked damage numbers, but it still loses to the attack speed / DoT multi bow. On my setup, the attack speed / DoT multi bow is putting out 9.2 million, this is 8.4 million.


Thanks for the feedback!

Did you use the literal bow I posted, or the theoretical luckier variation with an additional +1 all dex gems?

Here is the luckier variation I mocked up in PoB text:

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Luck Bow Craft
Short Bow
Unique ID: edf4376b38dfc119344f8a913ed2f3ac90db06358adab891257cb6ab9231590f
Item Level: 1
Quality: 25
Sockets: R-G-G-B-G-G
LevelReq: 5
Implicits: 1
Item sells for much more to vendors
+1 to Level of Socketed Strength Gems
+1 to Level of Socketed Dexterity Gems
+1 to Level of Socketed Gems
{crafted}Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers
{crafted}+2 to Level of Socketed Support Gems
{crafted}+38% to Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier


I did some calculation but dropped the non-changing factors just to compare, and it appears to come to within about 2% of your posted bow in my build. I believe since it's multiplicative all the other changing factors wouldn't change the result percentage?

Hopefully if it's that close it provides another option that is a little more reliable, and maybe we can come up with better variations.

One thought I had was can we work in a "suffixes cannot be changed" for the beast craft? This apparently works to just add +prefix! I didn't have room because you'd need that, and cannot roll attack mods at the same time, which would require multimod, and that needs 2 suffixes when we have 1.

You're welcome to include the method in the first post if it seems useful.

Thanks much for the feedback! And thanks so much for my favorite build to date that's taken me farther into the end game than before :)
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Kelerain เขียน:
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Edit: Well, I ran the numbers in PoB and plugged them into the spreadsheet, and I was incorrect. This method gives some wicked damage numbers, but it still loses to the attack speed / DoT multi bow. On my setup, the attack speed / DoT multi bow is putting out 9.2 million, this is 8.4 million.


Thanks for the feedback!

Did you use the literal bow I posted, or the theoretical luckier variation with an additional +1 all dex gems?

Here is the luckier variation I mocked up in PoB text:

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Luck Bow Craft
Short Bow
Unique ID: edf4376b38dfc119344f8a913ed2f3ac90db06358adab891257cb6ab9231590f
Item Level: 1
Quality: 25
Sockets: R-G-G-B-G-G
LevelReq: 5
Implicits: 1
Item sells for much more to vendors
+1 to Level of Socketed Strength Gems
+1 to Level of Socketed Dexterity Gems
+1 to Level of Socketed Gems
{crafted}Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers
{crafted}+2 to Level of Socketed Support Gems
{crafted}+38% to Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier


I did some calculation but dropped the non-changing factors just to compare, and it appears to come to within about 2% of your posted bow in my build. I believe since it's multiplicative all the other changing factors wouldn't change the result percentage?

Hopefully if it's that close it provides another option that is a little more reliable, and maybe we can come up with better variations.

One thought I had was can we work in a "suffixes cannot be changed" for the beast craft? This apparently works to just add +prefix! I didn't have room because you'd need that, and cannot roll attack mods at the same time, which would require multimod, and that needs 2 suffixes when we have 1.

You're welcome to include the method in the first post if it seems useful.

Thanks much for the feedback! And thanks so much for my favorite build to date that's taken me farther into the end game than before :)
I used the ideal versions of both bows. Were you looking at the DOT values in PoB raw, or running them through the calc posted in the bow crafting section - multiplying in attack speed, mirage archer, duration, and number of active pods? I take the raw numbers from PoB and plug them into a spreadsheet for comparison. I was surprised to find out that 19% attack speed is a larger damage boost than 40% damage multiplier.
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Cool build, really enjoying it. Any tips on how I can up my DPS/overall gear?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sbaral88 Character's name is Pantalamion.

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sbaral88 เขียน:
Cool build, really enjoying it. Any tips on how I can up my DPS/overall gear?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sbaral88 Character's name is Pantalamion.

Easy things to fix. :)
- Pick up a level 21 Toxic Rain gem.
- Pick up a bow with +3 to gems.

Our primary method of increasing damage is gem levels. Those two will boost your damage massively. No need to go for the killer end game bow - that's a nice to have if you decide to max out the character - but I'm clearing all content with much less than that:

You can buy one as good or better than that for ~9 exalt. If that's still above your budget, you can get one with +1 gems & +2 bow gems, 6 linked, for an exalt or less.

A level 21 Toxic Rain gem is 10 chaos. Keep leveling yours in your off hand weapons, 20 quality it, then vaal it and hope for the 21/20 corrupt version.

- Scrap the increased AOE that you have linked to your curse on hit. When you link the curse with CoH, you lose the AOE, so that gem isn't doing anything except maybe boosting how much mana it costs to cast. Actually, I'd probably scrap the entire CoH setup, and just rely on your Witchfire Brew for cursing - that's how I'm setup now, it works pretty awesome.
- Move your auras to your helm along with that Enlighten. The +1 level to Enlighten is worth it.
- Switch to a Stygian Vise belt for the extra jewel socket.
- Try to farm the lab or outright buy gloves, helm, and boots with useful lab enchants.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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grimjack68 เขียน:
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sbaral88 เขียน:
Cool build, really enjoying it. Any tips on how I can up my DPS/overall gear?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sbaral88 Character's name is Pantalamion.

Easy things to fix. :)
- Pick up a level 21 Toxic Rain gem.
- Pick up a bow with +3 to gems.

Our primary method of increasing damage is gem levels. Those two will boost your damage massively. No need to go for the killer end game bow - that's a nice to have if you decide to max out the character - but I'm clearing all content with much less than that:

You can buy one as good or better than that for ~9 exalt. If that's still above your budget, you can get one with +1 gems & +2 bow gems, 6 linked, for an exalt or less.

A level 21 Toxic Rain gem is 10 chaos. Keep leveling yours in your off hand weapons, 20 quality it, then vaal it and hope for the 21/20 corrupt version.

- Scrap the increased AOE that you have linked to your curse on hit. When you link the curse with CoH, you lose the AOE, so that gem isn't doing anything except maybe boosting how much mana it costs to cast. Actually, I'd probably scrap the entire CoH setup, and just rely on your Witchfire Brew for cursing - that's how I'm setup now, it works pretty awesome.
- Move your auras to your helm along with that Enlighten. The +1 level to Enlighten is worth it.
- Switch to a Stygian Vise belt for the extra jewel socket.
- Try to farm the lab or outright buy gloves, helm, and boots with useful lab enchants.


Thanks pal. Unfortunately I'm like super low on currency at the moment including no Exalts(I had geared up another toon before this so I guess I could sell her gear), but should be able to get the gem. I didn't think about that since I'm already so close to level 20 on Toxic Rain.

How much of a DPS upgrade is Damage on Full Light over Efficacy? I was running that at first and while I am on max HP quite often, I do occasionally dip when fighting bosses/conquerors which always has me nervous. I'd also have to regear to get more strength to keep leveling that gem up.

I've heard Empower support isn't worth it until you get to level 4 so I just have it socketed somewhere else to let it keep generating EXP, I figure that's the right move.

Also still need to do the fourth labyrinth(endless I believe?). Am I strong enough to do it now? I'm Awakening level four but A4 Drox was kickin my ass pretty hard(just didn't quite have the DPS to kill flags fast enough).
How to increase survivability? I have some trouble with bosses.
I did two Zana's maps which had some Shaper influenced boss. One did lightning damage and another did some yellow damage (I think physical?). I ran out of flasks to use cause they dont summon minions. Not sure if it's because of my gear or simply because it's my first time against them and I dont know their attack pattern.

3.9hp/1.9es. 75/75/75/24 res.

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sbaral88 เขียน:

How much of a DPS upgrade is Damage on Full Light over Efficacy? I was running that at first and while I am on max HP quite often, I do occasionally dip when fighting bosses/conquerors which always has me nervous. I'd also have to regear to get more strength to keep leveling that gem up.

I've heard Empower support isn't worth it until you get to level 4 so I just have it socketed somewhere else to let it keep generating EXP, I figure that's the right move.

Also still need to do the fourth labyrinth(endless I believe?). Am I strong enough to do it now? I'm Awakening level four but A4 Drox was kickin my ass pretty hard(just didn't quite have the DPS to kill flags fast enough).


I just ran Efficacy. I didnt compare to see if Dmg on Full was more damage, but I wanted the stable damage instead.

I think it's called Uber Lab. The fourth difficulty where we need to use Goddess Offering right?
I found Uber Lab easier than A4 Conquerors. And I did Uber Lab even before I started doing T11 maps. The only thing that killed me in Uber Lab was the debuff/totems that respawn during the boss fight. (I clicked to dodge the attack, but the debuff/totem respawned and slowed me down so I couldnt dodge.)
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย chapppy#2528 เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2020 16:48:24
Yeah I did Uber Lab today and steamrolled it. The boss was a joke he went down so fast...lolol. The only thing that threatened me were the traps, had some close calls since I was trying to rush through it. Man the power swing you get when you upgrade to Escape Artist is massive.

With Escape Artist I'm actually thinking of trying Damage on Full Life now over Efficacy.

The big issue for me now is mana. It wasn't a problem before because I had the other ascendancy, Arcane Weave or whatever, but I specced out of that for the survivability of the Escape Artist route. I have -cost of mana on my rings and amulet, and AOE isn't an issue, but on long single target bosses mana can be an issue.
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sbaral88 เขียน:

Thanks pal. Unfortunately I'm like super low on currency at the moment including no Exalts(I had geared up another toon before this so I guess I could sell her gear), but should be able to get the gem. I didn't think about that since I'm already so close to level 20 on Toxic Rain.

How much of a DPS upgrade is Damage on Full Light over Efficacy? I was running that at first and while I am on max HP quite often, I do occasionally dip when fighting bosses/conquerors which always has me nervous. I'd also have to regear to get more strength to keep leveling that gem up.

I've heard Empower support isn't worth it until you get to level 4 so I just have it socketed somewhere else to let it keep generating EXP, I figure that's the right move.

Also still need to do the fourth labyrinth(endless I believe?). Am I strong enough to do it now? I'm Awakening level four but A4 Drox was kickin my ass pretty hard(just didn't quite have the DPS to kill flags fast enough).

On my setup...
Damage on Full Life: 6.988 million DPS
Efficacy: 6.341 million DPS
10% damage boost.

Empower is worthwhile at lower levels if you have a bow with +support gems. Otherwise stick with a damage booster gem.

Looks like you ran Uberlab already. :) Depending on what your 4th set of points was, you have either boosted your DPS or your surviveability quite a bit. Enjoy!
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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sbaral88 เขียน:
Yeah I did Uber Lab today and steamrolled it. The boss was a joke he went down so fast...lolol. The only thing that threatened me were the traps, had some close calls since I was trying to rush through it. Man the power swing you get when you upgrade to Escape Artist is massive.

With Escape Artist I'm actually thinking of trying Damage on Full Life now over Efficacy.

The big issue for me now is mana. It wasn't a problem before because I had the other ascendancy, Arcane Weave or whatever, but I specced out of that for the survivability of the Escape Artist route. I have -cost of mana on my rings and amulet, and AOE isn't an issue, but on long single target bosses mana can be an issue.
Mana problems are either a thing or not a concern at all, there's no middle ground.

Your rings & amulet can all hold -9 mods. That would make a difference for sure.

Also, you can spec into the reduced mana reservation nodes on the tree next to charisma and leadership.

Lastly, I'm using a watcher's eye with chance to regain mana when you use a skill while affected by Clarity. That will completely refill my mana pool whenever it kicks in, and it tends to proc about 1 in 10, which means I'm never out.

I'd start with respeccing your tree, it's essentially free. Then I'd work on rings / amulet. Watcher's eye is the most expensive option.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
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