(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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Nyshon เขียน:

The bow is not a two-handed weapon,

It is. Unless it says "two handed melee weapon" you're good. (Quiver doesn't count as a weapon.)

Hey guys!
So I've been running this one for a couple of days now, I just upped my rings and my amulet. I know I should get a new bow too but I am rather poor rn. Farming t14-t15 maps and watchstones. Works great!

Only want to see what you guys say about my items atm. What (other than bow) could/should I upgrade?
I have a somewhat low lightning resistance atm (capped but only 75 (77%).
Any input is valuable! Thank you!

ps. how do I know my dps with this build? POB and ingame does not show me anything. I think :)

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Viktranka เขียน:

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Nyshon เขียน:

The bow is not a two-handed weapon,

It is. Unless it says "two handed melee weapon" you're good. (Quiver doesn't count as a weapon.)

Woops, sorry, I fixed my post. I was indeed totally wrong, not sure why I had beleived all this time bow was not a 2H weapon. That's good news, though, haha.

Hi guys. This is my first POE char ever (aside from some sub lvl 10 attempts ;)) and the guide was very helpful. Ive managed to progress a lot, beat Sirus A8 (but definitely cant do it consistently, and usually takes 3-6 portals), but now I feel like im starting to hit a wall. Both my survivability and dps is having issues. Some of the Simulacrum bosses (Kitana?) are very hard for me, the Shaper bosses and the Conquerors also have the tendency to sometimes just 1shot me, whereas it feels like I have to fight for every % of health on them.

Can someone help me on what upgrades to work on next? (I'm aware I should probably get some uber lab crafts for my gloves and helmet but im too lazy for that right now) Most upgrades seem very minimal and very expensive.

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Vexfere เขียน:

What should i get to have more clear speed on t16 maps? (i have a dying sun too)

EDIT: with this items i thought i would be melting t16 maps but i actually cant full clear before the delirium ends and its hard to add more HP/ES to the build too

You're not using cluster jewels, which are very good this league. Would recommend switching up your tree to take advantage of them. You can check my tree to get a feel for where to shave points, I mostly combed through this thread to build mine.

How's your mana? I guess you have Charisma and Enlighten 4, so a lot of buffer. Awakened swift affliction would be a good upgrade and is fairly cheap now, relatively speaking. You will likely need to replace the amulet with a -mana at that point.

Other thing is working on a new bow with DOT multi as well as +3 and CHaos DOT-multi. Buying it is expensive, crafting it is expensive and sucks. But it's something to work on occasionally when you're sitting in hideout.

I'm new to cluster jewels, so can you elaborate more on what jewels I should look out for? An example could be specific skills on the jewels that I should spend my points on as I'm seeing different variations; Wicked Pall, Eldritch Inspiration, Vile Re-invigoration etc.

Hi, I'm dying too much and I can't safely clear Simulacrum 20/20, as well as jucied t14+. What are my upgrades? Many thanks!

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Viktranka เขียน:

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lambλd เขียน:

hello,
i've been playing this character from the league start and its been pretty good, done pretty much all the content, i've invested a lot of curruency and been min-maxin for some time. At the moment i have about 50ex to invest but im lacking ideas about what to improve further.

Indeed your gear is mostly at the point there are only minor things to tweak.

1. I don't see you having anointment on neck. Definitely add that.
2. Not a fan of conc effect on TR. Imo efficacy is better because it doesn't have a drawback, esp. with the extra arrow enchant I think you want as much increase to area not reductions. (POB doesn't account the lower aoe as a downside, so that's why it shows as a "better" option.)
3. You could get onslaught on one of your jewels ("chance to gain onslaught on kill").
4. You can use Hillock in research to further quality your flasks.
5. Personal preference, but if you're using thread of hope I would try to spare 1 point for silent steps, it's a nice defensive 5% reduced damage taken from blinded mobs and with witchfire brew and flesh&stone anything that gets close will be blinded.

Thanks for the reply, i actually missed the anoint on necklace and already fixed that, as for efficacy i will try it out, actually played with it before but as u said, conc effect looked better in Pob and thats why i've been using it, as for the silent steps the esiest way would be to just lvl up. Im at 95 right now, what would be the fastest way to lvl up safely?

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dmitry_malinovsky เขียน:

Hi, I'm dying too much and I can't safely clear Simulacrum 20/20, as well as jucied t14+. What are my upgrades? Many thanks!

If you're dying a lot, don't use damage on full life, that's only good for cases where you rarely take any damage at all. Use (awakened) void manipulation, because it's always on.

Also use rings / quiver / gloves with actual life rolls on them, for example quiver can have 90+ life normally vs 55 crafted. Neck too if possible, but I know it's hard to get one with +chaos gems and innate life (or rather it's expensive) so I'd focus on the other slots first.

Also use life flask. No life flask is only good if you're killing so fast patient reaper procs are keeping you topped.

Also that medium cluster jewel can be upgraded to one with a socket. You could get more value from a socket than just small 5% multi node (even normal jewel can have 4% multi and 2 extra stats).

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Jaerre เขียน:

Hi guys. This is my first POE char ever (aside from some sub lvl 10 attempts ;)) and the guide was very helpful. Ive managed to progress a lot, beat Sirus A8 (but definitely cant do it consistently, and usually takes 3-6 portals), but now I feel like im starting to hit a wall. Both my survivability and dps is having issues. Some of the Simulacrum bosses (Kitana?) are very hard for me, the Shaper bosses and the Conquerors also have the tendency to sometimes just 1shot me, whereas it feels like I have to fight for every % of health on them.

Can someone help me on what upgrades to work on next?

You have enlighten in your bow... Did you just swap gems by mistake around? You're missing a damage gem in your main link atm.

One of your rings has no life, the other has low amount. Diamond is a really bad base anyway, the crit is wasted.

Also if you have no freeze flask being frozen can kill you.

By using allelopathy and impresence you take away 2 rare slots where you could stack chaos damage over time multiplier, and also you get less life (gloves have none, neck has only 52).

You could squeeze more resists on belt so you can have more leeway on rings / quiver or you could get a stygian vise with good stats.

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mrsarun เขียน:

Hey guys!
So I've been running this one for a couple of days now, I just upped my rings and my amulet. I know I should get a new bow too but I am rather poor rn. Farming t14-t15 maps and watchstones. Works great!

Only want to see what you guys say about my items atm. What (other than bow) could/should I upgrade?
I have a somewhat low lightning resistance atm (capped but only 75 (77%).
Any input is valuable! Thank you!

ps. how do I know my dps with this build? POB and ingame does not show me anything. I think :)

You need to check in pob "dot dps" under toxic rain.

Anyway yeah, that bow is horrible. For cheap you can get either silverbough or buy 6-link bow (imperial is cheap because you can get it from "imperial legacy" cards) and use "Shrieking Essence of Dread" on it.

Also buy a lvl 21 toxic rain.

I have no idea what did you do with your ring, did you buy it like that or did you actually spend 2ex to multimod intelligence on a trash ring?

I don't remember if the guide states this or not, but you don't have to buy a ring with innate -mana cost of skills, you can craft it on open prefix with an elreon mod, meaning you either unlock it yourself by buying items with "elreon's veiled" property (or farming him in the Jun missions), or you get a crafting service. This means you can buy a ring with high life / resists and "empty prefix" option and just craft it.

Also you should replace any gear that stacks "x to y damage to attacks" or crit, these don't benefit toxic rain dot at all. For example that abyssal jewel does nothing except adding 20 energy shield. You should get one with life, preferably some es, and either corrupted blood immunity, onslaught on kill or some other useful stats.

That anointment is also very weak. You can get reduced mana cost or +2 mana on hit with attacks on jewels to solve your mana issues.

Also you should go to bestiary (Einhar place) and craft affixes on flasks like staunching and heat. But first I'd try to roll something on a life flask that speeds it up or makes it instant / partially instant. This is a spec that doesn't have that big life pool (and you probably have even less due to weak rings and no life on belt) that you'd want less amount but faster / instant on life flask for sure.

Your clusters are bad too. Grim Oath is worthless. Touch of cruelty is pretty weak (unless you play with aspect of the spider). 9 passives 1 socket is a waste of passive points that are limited resource. You should aim for 8 passives, 2 sockets and at least 2 good notables preferably 3. Extra socket can be used for normal jewel not just cluster btw. Medium jewel should aim at 2 notables as well.

The small jewel is trash. This isn't a spec with block anyway and chance to avoid ailments only makes sense if you go for a spec that caps it to 100% (saving you affixes on flasks). You shouldn't waste a cluster jewel to cap your resists, you can spec survivalist or just buy better rings tbh. You can use cluster jewel to get 12-20% extra life and that's much harder to get elsewhere.

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Viktranka เขียน:

You need to check in pob "dot dps" under toxic rain.

Anyway yeah, that bow is horrible. For cheap you can get either silverbough or buy 6-link bow (imperial is cheap because you can get it from "imperial legacy" cards) and use "Shrieking Essence of Dread" on it.

Also buy a lvl 21 toxic rain.

I have no idea what did you do with your ring, did you buy it like that or did you actually spend 2ex to multimod intelligence on a trash ring?

I don't remember if the guide states this or not, but you don't have to buy a ring with innate -mana cost of skills, you can craft it on open prefix with an elreon mod, meaning you either unlock it yourself by buying items with "elreon's veiled" property (or farming him in the Jun missions), or you get a crafting service. This means you can buy a ring with high life / resists and "empty prefix" option and just craft it.

Also you should replace any gear that stacks "x to y damage to attacks" or crit, these don't benefit toxic rain dot at all. For example that abyssal jewel does nothing except adding 20 energy shield. You should get one with life, preferably some es, and either corrupted blood immunity, onslaught on kill or some other useful stats.

That anointment is also very weak. You can get reduced mana cost or +2 mana on hit with attacks on jewels to solve your mana issues.

Also you should go to bestiary (Einhar place) and craft affixes on flasks like staunching and heat. But first I'd try to roll something on a life flask that speeds it up or makes it instant / partially instant. This is a spec that doesn't have that big life pool (and you probably have even less due to weak rings and no life on belt) that you'd want less amount but faster / instant on life flask for sure.

Your clusters are bad too. Grim Oath is worthless. Touch of cruelty is pretty weak (unless you play with aspect of the spider). 9 passives 1 socket is a waste of passive points that are limited resource. You should aim for 8 passives, 2 sockets and at least 2 good notables preferably 3. Extra socket can be used for normal jewel not just cluster btw. Medium jewel should aim at 2 notables as well.

The small jewel is trash. This isn't a spec with block anyway and chance to avoid ailments only makes sense if you go for a spec that caps it to 100% (saving you affixes on flasks). You shouldn't waste a cluster jewel to cap your resists, you can spec survivalist or just buy better rings tbh. You can use cluster jewel to get 12-20% extra life and that's much harder to get elsewhere.

Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to give me all that info! Really appreciated! I will work on the build, no doubt, and with the tips you gave I will learn alot!

The rings I bought, unfortunately. The amulet too, but I know what to go for now with your firm advice!

The clusters is my first time trying tbh :) I added them mostly for the challenge point, the large one for the chaos, but yeah, will fix it with time. (even more broke atm, so farming is my best bet for now)
I will do my best to sort them out soon!

The bow-tip tho, that might be my next thing to do, extra thanks for that!

I've been using a mix of everyone's take here who gave positive feedback, changing the main build around and I am very happy with it rn. I've put one point on the small passive for mana reservation next to charisma so I can run spider instead of flesh and stone for now, using hyrri's for extra evasion and a lot of convenience gems as maloneys frees up 3 slots (portal, second wind, vaal haste and grace). I also swap damage on full life with mirage archer depending on the situation (mirage I find a lot better on sirus and fully deliriumed maps) I also use witchfire instead of quicksilver on bosses and places I don't need the mobility. Lab enchants I had absolutely no luck with for now unfortunately.

I was wondering on more experienced people's take on what I'm doing and perhaps some suggestions on what to improve next. Some of my normal jewels are pretty trashy and gloves too possibly. Megalomaniacs I couldn't find any with 3 useful passives, so I just don't put the points on the dead weights on mine.

I find that I can clear all content with ease and have a shitton of dps from the clusters and spider (simulacrum bosses die in a few seconds). Lost a bunch of EHP from the transition to clusters, but I haven't had any problem with tankyness so far. Thanks to everyone who contributed!