[3.6] Eternity Shroud Winter Orb Trickster (the best one)

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DrunkBall101 เขียน:


I dropped a shaped wand of this and its incredible how much faster you can farm.

One question what is the interaction between the explosion and the shattering effect from herald of ice?


You shouldn't even be using Herald of Ice. I blow up packs and rares in t15's /16's instantly without it, using it is a dps loss, so...why?


Ok i was under the assumption that Herald of Ice would still be a DPS upgrade since it added to the cold damage. I will drop it.

Another question should I just avoid the Sovereignty cluster then since i can run the other 3 auras without it?
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stephenp1983 เขียน:
Is it still worth it to use MOM/EB if I have my WinterOrb at 0 mana cost with -mana watcher's eye/ring? So is having 4.5k life and 1500ES for around 6k EHP going to fell better than 4k life and the defense of 30%of damage being taken from my ES on mana before life with EB?


With Enlighten 4 and Sovereignty nodes, you should still have about 5% of your mana unreserved with Hatred/Zealotry/HoA. So long as that plus your reduced mana costs also allow you to cast things like flame dash, wither totems, etc. in addition to Winter Orb, opting not to take EB+MoM is strictly better. It's advantageous for 100% of damage to be taken from energy shield first since ghost shrouds will replenish it. It also will give a higher life pool in practice since repeated hits taken while leeching energy shield might put you in a spot where you have 1000 HP and 1000 ES. In those cases, EB+MoM gives less protection than you'd get without them. Plus, by not spec'ing MoM, you'll never have to worry about a degen causing you to not be able to flame dash or begin channeling. This is all in addition to saving the passive points.

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DrunkBall101 เขียน:


I dropped a shaped wand of this and its incredible how much faster you can farm.

One question what is the interaction between the explosion and the shattering effect from herald of ice?


You shouldn't even be using Herald of Ice. I blow up packs and rares in t15's /16's instantly without it, using it is a dps loss, so...why?


One of the confusing, but fun, parts of POE is that there never is a universal best. If you aren't bossing, the ignore chaos resist mod of Eternity Shroud is not super helpful. The on-death explosions of these wands can clear full screens. While this build doesn't struggle with speed clearing, there's no question that these wands make it even faster in maps. Plus, once you've decided to break the seal on your full-set Shaper items, you might as well keep going and use Devouring Diadem. You can run Hatred, Zealotry, HoA, and HoI in it for a DPS boost in maps. Plus the Feast of Flesh is such a luxury. It makes you feel like you have Patient Reaper on a dot build, enabling you to run cannot leech/cannot regen maps with no worries without Cinderswallow.
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DrunkBall101 เขียน:
Ok i was under the assumption that Herald of Ice would still be a DPS upgrade since it added to the cold damage. I will drop it.

Another question should I just avoid the Sovereignty cluster then since i can run the other 3 auras without it?


It depends on what content you find yourself doing and how much you want to change it. You have a few choices:

1) Keep Sovereignty and EB on the tree. Best choice if you want to do a decent amount of bossing. You will need both to run full Shaper gear and 3 auras.
2) Keep Sovereignty, drop EB, use Devouring Diadem. Best for highest DPS mapping with occasional bossing. You can have Hatred, Zealotry, HoI, and HoA in helm. You lose a bit of DPS vs. bosses but still fine.
3) Drop Sovereignty, drop EB, use Devouring Diadem. Best for QoL if you don't think you'll be doing much bossing at all. You only run the main 3 auras now, but you get back a ton of skill points. Those can get you lots of convenience stuff like more life and cast speed.

I'm doing the third route personally. I can't afford Shaper Pyre and top tier Shaper rares anyways, so the casual route is fine for my needs.
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DamageIncorporated เขียน:

There's no actual damage reduction happening anyways. Damage comes from ES before life anyways. MoM is just for EB interaction.

So yes, if you can pull off 0 cost winter orb, you don't need EB. You're missing nothing and gaining passive points.

10k ES as a Trickster is a entirely different way to play it. 5500 life and 1k-1500 ES is pretty standard fair Trickster. Its tanky enough to take hits, but it's not a tank. gotta move.

I do think it needs some sort of life sustain though, which is why I crafted my ring. I think getting by without warlords mark or any source of leech is unrealistic and sketchy.


Thanks for clarifying that makes sense.
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DrunkBall101 เขียน:
Ok i was under the assumption that Herald of Ice would still be a DPS upgrade since it added to the cold damage. I will drop it.

Another question should I just avoid the Sovereignty cluster then since i can run the other 3 auras without it?


It depends on what content you find yourself doing and how much you want to change it. You have a few choices:

1) Keep Sovereignty and EB on the tree. Best choice if you want to do a decent amount of bossing. You will need both to run full Shaper gear and 3 auras.
2) Keep Sovereignty, drop EB, use Devouring Diadem. Best for highest DPS mapping with occasional bossing. You can have Hatred, Zealotry, HoI, and HoA in helm. You lose a bit of DPS vs. bosses but still fine.
3) Drop Sovereignty, drop EB, use Devouring Diadem. Best for QoL if you don't think you'll be doing much bossing at all. You only run the main 3 auras now, but you get back a ton of skill points. Those can get you lots of convenience stuff like more life and cast speed.

I'm doing the third route personally. I can't afford Shaper Pyre and top tier Shaper rares anyways, so the casual route is fine for my needs.


Thank you for the detailed answer!
Just got my first ever Uber Elder kill, and only 2 deaths with this build Dropped a crit chance hatred watcher's eye too!

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?

https://pastebin.com/MnR14Gq0

how do people get 5mil POB dps when I am not even close to 1mil?
Endgame content is easy af though
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Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?

https://pastebin.com/MnR14Gq0

how do people get 5mil POB dps when I am not even close to 1mil?
Endgame content is easy af though


If I'm not wrong you have to multiple your damage with amount of your projectiles (5 with GMP?). So pob dmg*5
I am trying to buy a shaper ring with fire damage leeched as life and there are never any for sale. What is the easiest way to craft one I can multimod? If i buy a good shaper base what is item level does the ring need to be to roll "fire damage leeched as life"?
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DrunkBall101 เขียน:
I am trying to buy a shaper ring with fire damage leeched as life and there are never any for sale. What is the easiest way to craft one I can multimod? If i buy a good shaper base what is item level does the ring need to be to roll "fire damage leeched as life"?


It's a Delve mod, so you'd need Aberrant fossil (% chaos dmg leeched as life) or Scorched (% fire dmg leeched as life). The only possible roll is 0,2%, ilvl doesn't matter.

I looked it up on poeaffix.net

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