[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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Berto33 เขียน:

Man, as much as I love the clear of this build, the single target damage for the amount of currency I've sunk is abysmal. Taking me minutes to fight 3 socket conquerors (not even 4).

Here's my gear so far, obviously a lot of improvements but for nearly 10ex worth of investment I feel like it is severely lacking. I know I need enlighten 3 so I can get aspect of spider to put on belt which will help some, and empower 3 will add a decent bit of dps, and few other upgrades to increase my dps but even if I triple my damage from what it is now, I feel like doing any end game bosses will be an incredible slog. Any of you done uber elder, awakener 8, shaper in a reasonable time? Should my next upgrade be an empower 4?

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Berto33 เขียน:

Man, as much as I love the clear of this build, the single target damage for the amount of currency I've sunk is abysmal. Taking me minutes to fight 3 socket conquerors (not even 4).

Here's my gear so far, obviously a lot of improvements but for nearly 10ex worth of investment I feel like it is severely lacking. I know I need enlighten 3 so I can get aspect of spider to put on belt which will help some, and empower 3 will add a decent bit of dps, and few other upgrades to increase my dps but even if I triple my damage from what it is now, I feel like doing any end game bosses will be an incredible slog. Any of you done uber elder, awakener 8, shaper in a reasonable time? Should my next upgrade be an empower 4?

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forfun142857 เขียน:

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zz2manuz3 เขียน:

Oh in fact yes MoM + Battery work I just didn't see that's only 30% of damages taken to mana before life.
So is it really worth to have that much ES?
Feel like I was more tanky without them, just drop Discipline for mana, the mana regen itself is good.

Your ideal Life:ES proportion should be 7:3. For example 4900 life pool should be protected with 2100 ES pool, 4200 Life = 1800 ES. It's less effective when you go out of this proportion.

Why do we prefer ES over mana (why do we convert our mana to ES with Discipline)?

We gain almost the same amount of ES as reserved mana using Discipline, but the
regen rate is different. Our regen rates don't matter while we are mapping, since we are either full HP/ES (thanks to Patient Reaper/ED regen) or dead. But in the boss fights we have these numbers of ES recharge rate:
10%/sec after 1 second delay with Soul Strike
15%/sec after 2 second delay with Hunter quiver.
Mana regen stays at ~20 mana/sec, which is just 2%/sec but without any delays.
It's up to you to decide what's more comfortable, but I would definetely stick to Discipline :)

English is not my native language, so I hope it's possible to understand what I meant.

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olsev_baiden เขียน:

Isn't Flesh and Stone, Malevolence, Spider Aspect, no EB, no MOM, Vaal Discipline a safer route? That's what I'm trying to do with the Charisma notable in a few levels.

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forfun142857 เขียน:

Nope, 4200 HP and 1800 EB ES is 6k EHP. You take 70% of damage from HP (4200/0.7=6000 and 30% of damage from ES/mana)

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olsev_baiden เขียน:

Isn't Flesh and Stone, Malevolence, Spider Aspect, no EB, no MOM, Vaal Discipline a safer route? That's what I'm trying to do with the Charisma notable in a few levels.

Then we lose ~400 ES provided by Discipline, which is our EHP, so it isn't safer. Also we can face mana management problems, since 6L lvl 29 ED costs 85 mana alone. 5L Blight costs 13 mana for 4.4 casts/second, it's 57 mana/sec and we regenerate only 20 mana/sec.