[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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Madakey เขียน:

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Fucking lold at this standard warrior talking shit lmao

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Madakey เขียน:

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must be a troll? Whats with all of the drama all of the sudden? Are streamers this mad about him listing alternatives to his build and the pros / cons of those?

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mtremblay เขียน:

Really enjoying the build so far, survivability is currently awesome. My problem right now is damage on end game bosses, like simulacrum boss. I steamrolled all the waves but when I got to 20 I didn't seem to have enough DPS to bring him down. Any advice on what to upgrade? I'm assuming lvl4 empower, but anything else that stand out with my build? Thanks!

Same here.
Late game bosses take a lot of time.

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PersKi17 เขียน:

Hi to all. Could anyone of you in your free time check if I am leading the character correctly? I am a new player and I don't really know if I play "good"

I have already written one comment above, but it was buried ^^.

Sorry, didn't see your post. I usually answer everyone.
For you character, follow the flowchart, pretty much. Carcass jack is an okay replacement, I'd keep it if you like it.

Don't forget you can vendor level 20 gems with a gcp to turn then 20% quality. Do that, it's a good damage boost for ED supports. Make sure you have a spare ED before you touch the ED gem.

Next upgrade: 6l cane

Don't you think it would be better to invest in a bow?

What should I do with my ED gem?

Is there a reason we don't use sand stance from flesh & stone once we get aspect of the spider? It's only 10% mana reserved and seems like it would be super helpful, potentially quite a bit more so than discipline?

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mtremblay เขียน:

Really enjoying the build so far, survivability is currently awesome. My problem right now is damage on end game bosses, like simulacrum boss. I steamrolled all the waves but when I got to 20 I didn't seem to have enough DPS to bring him down. Any advice on what to upgrade? I'm assuming lvl4 empower, but anything else that stand out with my build? Thanks!

Get a bow with over time multi and crafted chaos multi. Get 20% on your gems via recipe. Emp 4, amulet with +1 chaos or int gems + chaos multi. Gloves with Chaos multi. Check out clusters, a 8 passive large with 3 mods and 2 jewel sockets so you can fit a medium and small in. Im farming simulacrum with esse in my gear, and i still have lots to improve.

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Madakey เขียน:

I would like to point out that your "budget" option literally has a stygian with Spider. A 6 link staff and a brutal restraint.. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that these things are budget but okay.

Anyway to continue the hypocrisy, you sir are the one who called out a bunch of streamers about why their builds are bad and then tried to take a moral high ground after being called out.

Do you want to know one of the things that points out the reason your build is absolute trash ? The witchfire brew my man... It does nothing for you except dot damage, You have to literally be standing on top of an enemy to get any of the other benefits.

Stop posting bad builds and then using streamers as a way to get those builds popular. Especially when you have LITERALLY no clue what you are talking about.

Now the worst part about this is people are actually going to swallow this tripe!

What kind of reply is this?
I started with ED and reached red tiers WAY before I got a Stygian and a timeless jewel. You also gotta use your own brain a little when you follow are guide.

And 80% (!) of ED players are using Witchfire Brew right now. So, 80% of ED players have "absolute trash" builds and no clue?
And what even are you on about streamers? Little drama queen

Such a weird reply.

Okay well let me explain, I never once said that ED couldn't make it to red tiers, what I said was his "budget option" isn't exactly budget and calling out other streamers to prove his said point when his entire build is filled with flaws, kind of spoils the whole thing.

Also to explain the witchfire brew, you're getting literally only the dot, you're using your Contagion and Essence drain on enemies that are nowhere near you. Despair doesn't even affect them because of how far the enemy is away from you. Witchfire brew has the TINIEST range on it. I do mean tiny. If you don't believe me go and test it for yourself. You could literally use a sulphur and get the same effect that you are getting from a witchfire brew.
Just because everybody is doing it doesn't make it necessarily the correct thing to do...

Also look at the pros and cons and then ask yourself. Is it really that weird of a reply when somebody is literally using three streamers to make his own build look better. Fails at doing so but regardless.

There's your cookie.

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Madakey เขียน:

I would like to point out that your "budget" option literally has a stygian with Spider. A 6 link staff and a brutal restraint.. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that these things are budget but okay.

Anyway to continue the hypocrisy, you sir are the one who called out a bunch of streamers about why their builds are bad and then tried to take a moral high ground after being called out.

Do you want to know one of the things that points out the reason your build is absolute trash ? The witchfire brew my man... It does nothing for you except dot damage, You have to literally be standing on top of an enemy to get any of the other benefits.

Stop posting bad builds and then using streamers as a way to get those builds popular. Especially when you have LITERALLY no clue what you are talking about.

Now the worst part about this is people are actually going to swallow this tripe!

You're the one who have literally no clue what you are talking about, you're repeating words that aren't yours. Congratulation on following a popular streamer, and backseating build creators that spend hundread of hours actually being helpful to the community. Especially while watching someone else play the game. I saw that video, I got the point.

Also, I don't really see how I'm leeching his popularity. This thread is played by 2.5% of people on poe.ninja, and has 850000 views. My goal is to make a great guide covering how to scale ED into the endgame for all players to enjoy. But many might seek something else in their playstyle, and another build might be more fitted to them. This is why, also due to popular demand, I added other guides to the pros and cons section, to offer more alternatives.

Good luck, mate...

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ozten เขียน:

Now the worst part about this is people are actually going to swallow this tripe! must be a troll? Whats with all of the drama all of the sudden? Are streamers this mad about him listing alternatives to his build and the pros / cons of those?

Ziz made a questionable roast in his stream today. That's where it comes from.
Fasten your seatbelts, that lasts 1.5 hours...
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/574917876?t=02h25m42s

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PersKi17 เขียน:

Don't you think it would be better to invest in a bow?

What should I do with my ED gem?

Sure, if you feel like you don't absolutely need the damage from a 6l to farm currency at the moment.
You should level ED gems in offhand, and flip yours when you have a spare one that hits 19+.

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Berto33 เขียน:

Is there a reason we don't use sand stance from flesh & stone once we get aspect of the spider? It's only 10% mana reserved and seems like it would be super helpful, potentially quite a bit more so than discipline?

Flesh and stone is 25% mana. blood and sand is 10%, but blood and sand doesn't do anything for us.

Think I'm just about done, did some more tree/item changes, sitting at 4 million ED shaper dps (not counting frenzy charges which I do generate), 7,4k EHP and dodge cap. Guess I could still get +5 bow and +2 neck but those are both like half a mirror each, also some more survivability left to get but whatever.
Made 2 90 life+ 260 ES Hubrises but missed chaos resistance reduction slam both times so kinda gave up on that one, think the regular ES one is barely better then crown of the inward eye.

End game scaling of the build is totally crazy, pretty much unkillable whilst easily doing any kind of delirium content (including fully juiced 84 maps with 5 orbs, clearing the map in few minutes, which I doubt many builds can do) and yet there is so much more left to upgrade...which for me was kinda perfect build to play - had an easy league start into endless scaling from start to finish, making the build very fun and engaging to play, so thanks!

Ended up dropping Discipline for zealotry due to mods on my watcher's eye
35% more damage was just to much to pass on (arcane surge procs whenever I use suluphur flask)


Ended up dropping Brutal Restraint for Unnatural Instinct resulting in a lot more life (I do think brutal restraint is better until very late into the game but at this point with this much EHP I'm not really getting one shot eitherway)


Ended up with this jewel setup


Think rare life quiver with 1 or 2 DoT multiplier is way better than Soul Strike, does way more damage whilst also providing more survivability and flexibility due to added resistances.

Also opted in for Mark of the Shaper, lost 1 endurance charge (on bosses only) and gained about 10% more damage, does seem rather worth.

Only reason I opted for so much damage is just because of the nature of Delirium league, shit gets really really tanky, for normal content basically none of this is needed.

And when everything is said and done, think this setup rivals the damage of low life build whilst maintaining way way higher survivability, caviat is that this build gets endlesly more expensive as there is so many different setups and changes you can do to it, whilst low life ED is pretty one dimensional and there isn't really all that much variance to it.


Also that guy saying witchfire brew is useless, what are you smoking lol ?

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Madakey เขียน:

Okay well let me explain, I never once said that ED couldn't make it to red tiers, what I said was his "budget option" isn't exactly budget and calling out other streamers to prove his said point when his entire build is filled with flaws, kind of spoils the whole thing.

Also to explain the witchfire brew, you're getting literally only the dot, you're using your Contagion and Essence drain on enemies that are nowhere near you. Despair doesn't even affect them because of how far the enemy is away from you. Witchfire brew has the TINIEST range on it. I do mean tiny. If you don't believe me go and test it for yourself. You could literally use a sulphur and get the same effect that you are getting from a witchfire brew.
Just because everybody is doing it doesn't make it necessarily the correct thing to do...

Also look at the pros and cons and then ask yourself. Is it really that weird of a reply when somebody is literally using three streamers to make his own build look better. Fails at doing so but regardless.

There's your cookie.

Dude you're so fucking clueless it's sad lol. You're aware that you can use the despair aura on rares and bosses right? Trash dies in less than half a second in fucking T16s, you're not using witchfire for them