[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

Gryph, maybe we should consider applying Agnostic + enduring mana flask to substitute spirit offering sustain?
This demands substantial investment into mana and dropping some auras, which will lead to quite a loss for dps, but why not...

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deseptycon เขียน:

Gryph, maybe we should consider applying Agnostic + enduring mana flask to substitute spirit offering sustain?
This demands substantial investment into mana and dropping some auras, which will lead to quite a loss for dps, but why not...

As mentioned above, it IS an option, but not one that I like.

You lose all your ES (making you more susceptible to 1-shots), DPS Auras, passives to mana nodes, and chest piece to Cloak of Defiance.

It definitely works. Damage will suffer as CWC on a lower investment can feel a little lackluster as it is though.

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Rake7 เขียน:

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sn3kox เขียน:

still playable in standart league right ?

not with 3.10 - 2 days left

Will standart league also be updated to 3,10 in next day? 🙁

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sn3kox เขียน:

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Rake7 เขียน:

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sn3kox เขียน:

still playable in standart league right ?

not with 3.10 - 2 days left

Will standart league also be updated to 3,10 in next day? 🙁

You'll have to adjust it, but it's still playable without Spirit Offering.

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Gryphenprey เขียน:

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majesthro เขียน:

Here is another possibility how to go without spirit offering.
https://youtu.be/RGY8JwWtvE4

Gryph, how is single target sustain with your setup? Es/Life on hit feel awful vs single target for me

That's where leech comes in. With ES leech (light eater cluster) it feels fine. If you are also not relying any form of life leech for life sustain, you can take Ghost Reaver too.

Also I saw that today. Hehe. Requires a little more investment into mana than I'd care to do and you lose all your ES (thus losing a lot of eHP)

Also not super into locking myself into unique chest pieces when rares are sooooo strong for this build.

BUT it IS an option.

This new Keystone might be an option for this:

Disciple of Kitava
Every second, Consume a nearby Corpse to Recover 5% of Life and Mana
10% more Damage taken if you haven't Consumed a Corpse Recently

You should be able to completely focus on energy shield leech right?
Does the entry cost of this build got any bigger?
Before you just put on spirit offering + enduring mana flask and were good to go. Does it rly feel good in single target? cant imagine only leech will keep your ES up. especially at the beginning. ES on hit locks us to spinnernets or the expensive watchers eye mod.

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Gryphenprey เขียน:

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Taelic เขียน:

I think I'll try and make a spellslinger version of it work for my starter, since I'm very likely joining a private league with some friends and we very likely won't get a scold's bridle.

Just need to figure out what ascendancy to do it as now that they took spirit offering out back and shot it in the head.

Bone Offering is a really strong defensive effect. You can also try Elementalist for the golems and free Life leech+Reflect Immunity.

AND FOR EVERYONE WHO WAS SAD AND DOUBTED I MADE IT F'ING WORK!

You're welcome.

See the 3.10 update spoiler. I am still working on the rest of the guide to adjust for the changes and right now my head hurts so I'm taking a break. haha

Honestly excited to see how you make it work, thanks for keeping things alive.

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majesthro เขียน:

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Gryphenprey เขียน:

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majesthro เขียน:

Here is another possibility how to go without spirit offering.
https://youtu.be/RGY8JwWtvE4

Gryph, how is single target sustain with your setup? Es/Life on hit feel awful vs single target for me

That's where leech comes in. With ES leech (light eater cluster) it feels fine. If you are also not relying any form of life leech for life sustain, you can take Ghost Reaver too.

Also I saw that today. Hehe. Requires a little more investment into mana than I'd care to do and you lose all your ES (thus losing a lot of eHP)

Also not super into locking myself into unique chest pieces when rares are sooooo strong for this build.

BUT it IS an option.

This new Keystone might be an option for this:

Disciple of Kitava
Every second, Consume a nearby Corpse to Recover 5% of Life and Mana
10% more Damage taken if you haven't Consumed a Corpse Recently

You should be able to completely focus on energy shield leech right?
Does the entry cost of this build got any bigger?
Before you just put on spirit offering + enduring mana flask and were good to go. Does it rly feel good in single target? cant imagine only leech will keep your ES up. especially at the beginning. ES on hit locks us to spinnernets or the expensive watchers eye mod.

I like to think of that cluster jewel as like 5% life regen per second basically. Not sure if it's worth the points but it's really solid nonetheless.

Entry cost is...probably bigger. If you take the Elementalist route then she's not that expensive (mana management is harder) as soul tether tends to be cheap and she has her own leech built in.

ES leech is fine for single target but yes, the better your gear the better it will feel. You just might have to stop spinning every so often to let the leech catch up. Really GGG basically made the build feel more...fair.

ES on hit is always going to be something to aim for just because of how ridiculously powerful it is.

And finally, take to Standard and test it out. ;)

Added another video:

No ES on Hit recovery Chimera run w/ Martyr of Innocence. 3.10 Test Run


For those wondering how the sustain is on single target with just ES leech. This is with Ghost Reaver and no ES on hit. Also using Martyr staff instead of my old OP 8L legacy staff :P

so can this be a league starter? if yes how would we level and gather some currency before switch?

Hey Gryph,

With the nodes ethereal feast and light eater mapping is completely normal, ES always up,
Still, we cannot cyclone all the time, we need some breaks between when no mobs,
On single target and here you can see the difference,
Cyclone all the time you will eventually run out of ES and you will see life going down,
Stopping between you can fill a little bit the gap but you became vulnerable,

I want a lot to use volatile dead and more inclined to poet´s,
Will start with witch and will see,

Ty mate,