3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

What zombie gem setup do you use? I just can' decide between impale/dread banner, awakening phys/war banner/dread banner.

I tried PoB calculator but for some reason the best dps is with awake phys/dread banner.

So my zombie setup right now is multistrike, empower, impale, awak. minion damage and feeding frenzy (I'm not using minion speed as its dps is way lower than awak. phys or awak. minion dmg) and dread banner in chest.

I have tried awak. phys instead of impale with war banner but sometimes boss melts and sometimes it takes like 2-3 sec more than usual and can' really decide which version is better.
I mean on paper it should be impale with dread banner seeing how strong impale is but when I fight bosses it doesn't really feel like it.

Might be because I don't use minion speed and impale works best with high attack speed but even then the effective dps is a lot lower in PoB and I could also feel it on bosses.

Any insight would be appreciated.

For the baran's challenge, you don't need to be alive when the mana's square is active.

So you can go on the battle with no protection and only two zombie. You let baran kill you, you wait all square activation before resurect. And you come back full damage to instant kill him.

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PattyWin เขียน:

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Mubbsy เขียน:

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PattyWin เขียน:

Which Awakener Orb is the most useful for this build?

I have 20 EX left and iam trying to push my DPS.

Do you mean Conq Exalt? Cus there's only 1 type of awakener's orb and it combines influence types.

I like redeemer's for rings cus of the minion dmg as prefix roll possibility. Its not bad in a weapon if you hit movement speed so you can zoom at little faster too.

Most of the other ones don't provide many good bonuses in the slots we use things you could slam. Maybe crusader's for rings for % ES. But you can get that as a temple mod as well in combo with T1 ES, although you can combine the 2 for like 25% ES in a ring.

Other than rings, most of our gear is already unique or influenced in some way already so you can't hit it was a conq exalt.

No i dont meant Conq Exalt. Dont know what it is :)

I meant awaking orb, like multistrike, min damage, melee phys dam.

Which orb boost our damage better than an normal orb?


My only awaking orb i use atm is the awaking generosity orb.


I hope u can follow my words ^^

Ooh, they're called gems :)

Awakened Multistrike is AMAZING but costs like 70ex+ so I wouldn't grab that anytime soon

Awakened Melee Physical Damage is great, but runs about 7-9ex

And if you have room for Awakened Minion Damage its only about 2ex and adds some nice extra damage.

Those are about it for awakened gems beside generosity.

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Serakris เขียน:

What zombie gem setup do you use? I just can' decide between impale/dread banner, awakening phys/war banner/dread banner.

I tried PoB calculator but for some reason the best dps is with awake phys/dread banner.

So my zombie setup right now is multistrike, empower, impale, awak. minion damage and feeding frenzy (I'm not using minion speed as its dps is way lower than awak. phys or awak. minion dmg) and dread banner in chest.

I have tried awak. phys instead of impale with war banner but sometimes boss melts and sometimes it takes like 2-3 sec more than usual and can' really decide which version is better.
I mean on paper it should be impale with dread banner seeing how strong impale is but when I fight bosses it doesn't really feel like it.

Might be because I don't use minion speed and impale works best with high attack speed but even then the effective dps is a lot lower in PoB and I could also feel it on bosses.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Are you using PoB fork, because impale damage doesn't work right in regular PoB.

I would recommenced Awakened Melee Phys because it has 10% Chance to Intimidate, which adds 10% more damage add the end of damage calculation for a healthy bump. I use it instead of minion damage.

What I do for bosses though is swap awakened minion damage in for feeding frenzy, feeding frenzy to gloves with golem so he triggers it, and then drop a movement skill. Absolutely melts bosses. Al-hezmin doesn't even get off 1 dash.

I would run this all the time but I want zombies to be aggressive from feeding frenzy linked for mapping, as well as my 2 movement skills to map super fast.

But experiment if you want, but just remember with awakened melee phys in PoB to select enemy is intimidated in the config, and if using impale to make sure you're on fork (https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding)

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Rgousi เขียน:

For the baran's challenge, you don't need to be alive when the mana's square is active.

So you can go on the battle with no protection and only two zombie. You let baran kill you, you wait all square activation before resurect. And you come back full damage to instant kill him.

Someone told me to do this and it didn't work for me. He wouldnt make more mana runes while I was dead. I was at 0% exp already at the time so I just did it by dying 4-5 times running 0 zombies (as even 1 killed him before i could complete the challenge lol) and just being efficient with where i made him slam, as it always forms a T pattern (So you can go bottom corner, top corner, middle bottom, middle top - and do it in 4 slams), and then died, came back once they were worn off with full zombies and melted him in half a second. Rough challenge though.

Anybody tried this build with Queen's Degree/Queen's Escape?

You lose +X to minion gems, but get more minions.
Is this worth it?

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Nishrek เขียน:

Anybody tried this build with Queen's Degree/Queen's Escape?

You lose +X to minion gems, but get more minions.
Is this worth it?

I leveled with it and think its a great starter weapon for sure, eventually a crafted minion 2 hander is the way to go, but when getting the currency to do so, nothing wrong with this weapon until you can afford something crafted.

*Edit*

Quick question I have myself.

Anyone know how to get accurate Bottled Faith Damage for us in PoB??

Double edit, never mind found activate this flask.

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Mubbsy เขียน:

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Rgousi เขียน:

For the baran's challenge, you don't need to be alive when the mana's square is active.

So you can go on the battle with no protection and only two zombie. You let baran kill you, you wait all square activation before resurect. And you come back full damage to instant kill him.

Someone told me to do this and it didn't work for me. He wouldnt make more mana runes while I was dead. I was at 0% exp already at the time so I just did it by dying 4-5 times running 0 zombies (as even 1 killed him before i could complete the challenge lol) and just being efficient with where i made him slam, as it always forms a T pattern (So you can go bottom corner, top corner, middle bottom, middle top - and do it in 4 slams), and then died, came back once they were worn off with full zombies and melted him in half a second. Rough challenge though.

Yeah that doesn't work because he spawns the runes depending on hp progression. What i did was to fight him with only 1 zombie (without feeding frenzy so it wouldn't act aggressive) and no specters nor AG, damage him until he spawned the first set of runes/avoid it and then just rinse and repeat. If the zombie is killing him too fast you can remove the gem to despawn it and he will keep casting the runes as long as he has done it before. Once you've done the challenge desecrate/summon zombies and boom, it's done

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RinnzlerFRL เขียน:

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Mubbsy เขียน:

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Rgousi เขียน:

For the baran's challenge, you don't need to be alive when the mana's square is active.

So you can go on the battle with no protection and only two zombie. You let baran kill you, you wait all square activation before resurect. And you come back full damage to instant kill him.

Someone told me to do this and it didn't work for me. He wouldnt make more mana runes while I was dead. I was at 0% exp already at the time so I just did it by dying 4-5 times running 0 zombies (as even 1 killed him before i could complete the challenge lol) and just being efficient with where i made him slam, as it always forms a T pattern (So you can go bottom corner, top corner, middle bottom, middle top - and do it in 4 slams), and then died, came back once they were worn off with full zombies and melted him in half a second. Rough challenge though.

Yeah that doesn't work because he spawns the runes depending on hp progression. What i did was to fight him with only 1 zombie (without feeding frenzy so it wouldn't act aggressive) and no specters nor AG, damage him until he spawned the first set of runes/avoid it and then just rinse and repeat. If the zombie is killing him too fast you can remove the gem to despawn it and he will keep casting the runes as long as he has done it before. Once you've done the challenge desecrate/summon zombies and boom, it's done

I'll try that next time, so frustrating when you fail and you realise you gotta do the whole cycle again :P time is running out to get it done, pressure is on lol

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Serakris เขียน:

What zombie gem setup do you use? I just can' decide between impale/dread banner, awakening phys/war banner/dread banner.

I tried PoB calculator but for some reason the best dps is with awake phys/dread banner.

So my zombie setup right now is multistrike, empower, impale, awak. minion damage and feeding frenzy (I'm not using minion speed as its dps is way lower than awak. phys or awak. minion dmg) and dread banner in chest.

I have tried awak. phys instead of impale with war banner but sometimes boss melts and sometimes it takes like 2-3 sec more than usual and can' really decide which version is better.
I mean on paper it should be impale with dread banner seeing how strong impale is but when I fight bosses it doesn't really feel like it.

Might be because I don't use minion speed and impale works best with high attack speed but even then the effective dps is a lot lower in PoB and I could also feel it on bosses.

Any insight would be appreciated.

I went with what you do but swapped Feeding frenzy for Awakening minion dmg.

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Mubbsy เขียน:

Are you using PoB fork, because impale damage doesn't work right in regular PoB.

I would recommenced Awakened Melee Phys because it has 10% Chance to Intimidate, which adds 10% more damage add the end of damage calculation for a healthy bump. I use it instead of minion damage.

What I do for bosses though is swap awakened minion damage in for feeding frenzy, feeding frenzy to gloves with golem so he triggers it, and then drop a movement skill. Absolutely melts bosses. Al-hezmin doesn't even get off 1 dash.

I would run this all the time but I want zombies to be aggressive from feeding frenzy linked for mapping, as well as my 2 movement skills to map super fast.

But experiment if you want, but just remember with awakened melee phys in PoB to select enemy is intimidated in the config, and if using impale to make sure you're on fork (https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding)

Yeah I am using fork and I can see calculated impale dps but it still comes lower than both awakening gems. Do you always run impale/dread banner?

Also isn't awake. minion damage same or even better as awake. melee phys in terms of bonus damage?
8/21 Minion gives 77% more damage and 8/21 melee phys gives 67% melee damage while intimidate gives 10% attack damage on top of that which is the same number but minion gives all damage (not sure if that is relevant in this case but still begs the question).

Nevertheless thanks for the input and tip with switching gems. I will definitely try it. I am experimenting a bit hence my questions regarding the setup since I tried every combination except pulling out feeding frenzy from weapon.