3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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dragon15423 เขียน:

hello again ,

just wanted to know if hulking corpses+feasting fiends medium cluster jewels are better than hulking corpses+renewal. or hulking corpses and other notable?

thank you

I would recommend having Renewal on every single Medium Cluster you use, and 1 Feasting Fiends somewhere.
For example if you had 4 Medium Cluster slots, I'd use 1 with Renewal + Feasting Fiends. Then have Renewal + Hulking Corpses/Bodyguards/Whatever on the other 3.

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Pingouinmalin เขียน:

Thanks for the answer !

The boots and gloves, I'm trying to get rid of, but the problem is the strength. I need some and if I get rid of both... I'm trying something with the Split Personality jewel (if I can get the right cluster jewel with double jewel slots, it will bring me 142 strength plus some life).

Why do you say pride is useless ? It is in the basic version of the build.

The weapon is not good ? Aaw man, it's my most expansive item by far. And impossible to upgrade (when I say I'm poor, I'm not joking, 1 ex (or 1.5) must be the grand total of my currency + zero interesting thing to sell beyond what I have in the build. It would not be a priority to upgrade : the DPS is not really a problem + I NEED the strength (especially if I get rid of boots and gloves) !

Is it just my feeling or is EVERYTHING so expansive ? I played other leagues with no such problems.

Your weapon is perfectly fine. It has Fortify and Fortify > Minion Damage. Really the only thing missing on it is Minion Atk/Cast Spd but that's not a huge deal. Also I wouldn't use Avian without a Saqawal's Chest, not worth the Mana res.
The first thing that stands out to me is your Flasks and your 2 unspent Ascendancy points. What I would do is: Pick up Bone Barrier ascendancy, replace both Life flasks with a Blood of the Karui (you don't need Bleed immunity anymore with Bone Armour), drop the Mana Flask and one of your quicksilver flasks (I would drop the adrenaline one until you get a warding on one of your new flasks in the other slots so you don't lose curse immunity, then replace your quicksilver warding Flask with the adrenaline Flask once you do). Then pick up a Basalt Flask of Heat or Warding, a Bismuth Flask of Heat or Warding, and a Rumi's Concoction.

Then swap your chest with a Geofri's Sanctuary, grab some Alberons boots with 18% Str (they cost like 2c), a better rare belt, a ring with Str, and so on.

Oh and it's up to personal preference, but I much prefer Frostblink over Flame Dash. Give it a try. Feels smoother than Flame Dash when combined with Cyclone & Convocation IMO.

Newbie question
Is there any difference using a bow rather than maul damage wise? Also does it matter if the bow have high item level or low? In terms of dcapping dex?

I am going to buy a weapon with

+1 level to socketed gems.
Grants avian
Minions deal x damage
Can have up to 3 cradted
+2 level of socketed support
Minions have increased attack speed
Minions have increased cast speed

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Chaoisia เขียน:

Could anyone explain to me how Death Attunement is obtained in this version of the build?

https://pastebin.com/SZmdnv4A

Like is there something I'm missing or is this version of the build isn't doable?

Going for more of a fast mapping version of the build.

Anoite oils to an amulet (Astraments usually).

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nexoe14 เขียน:

Newbie question
Is there any difference using a bow rather than maul damage wise? Also does it matter if the bow have high item level or low? In terms of dcapping dex?

I am going to buy a weapon with

+1 level to socketed gems.
Grants avian
Minions deal x damage
Can have up to 3 cradted
+2 level of socketed support
Minions have increased attack speed
Minions have increased cast speed

Using Maul/Mace allows you to use cyclone/cast while channeling/desecrate/offering.
Bow you have to either manually cast desecrate/offering or use CWDT setup.

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Fudsduds เขียน:

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Pingouinmalin เขียน:

Thanks for the answer !

The boots and gloves, I'm trying to get rid of, but the problem is the strength. I need some and if I get rid of both... I'm trying something with the Split Personality jewel (if I can get the right cluster jewel with double jewel slots, it will bring me 142 strength plus some life).

Why do you say pride is useless ? It is in the basic version of the build.

The weapon is not good ? Aaw man, it's my most expansive item by far. And impossible to upgrade (when I say I'm poor, I'm not joking, 1 ex (or 1.5) must be the grand total of my currency + zero interesting thing to sell beyond what I have in the build. It would not be a priority to upgrade : the DPS is not really a problem + I NEED the strength (especially if I get rid of boots and gloves) !

Is it just my feeling or is EVERYTHING so expansive ? I played other leagues with no such problems.

Your weapon is perfectly fine. It has Fortify and Fortify > Minion Damage. Really the only thing missing on it is Minion Atk/Cast Spd but that's not a huge deal. Also I wouldn't use Avian without a Saqawal's Chest, not worth the Mana res.
The first thing that stands out to me is your Flasks and your 2 unspent Ascendancy points. What I would do is: Pick up Bone Barrier ascendancy, replace both Life flasks with a Blood of the Karui (you don't need Bleed immunity anymore with Bone Armour), drop the Mana Flask and one of your quicksilver flasks (I would drop the adrenaline one until you get a warding on one of your new flasks in the other slots so you don't lose curse immunity, then replace your quicksilver warding Flask with the adrenaline Flask once you do). Then pick up a Basalt Flask of Heat or Warding, a Bismuth Flask of Heat or Warding, and a Rumi's Concoction.

Then swap your chest with a Geofri's Sanctuary, grab some Alberons boots with 18% Str (they cost like 2c), a better rare belt, a ring with Str, and so on.

Oh and it's up to personal preference, but I much prefer Frostblink over Flame Dash. Give it a try. Feels smoother than Flame Dash IMO.

Thanks for input. I'm currently not using Avian (waiting for a saqawal's nest), but the 2 ascendancy points are one of my main problem. I can't find the two last uber trials (has never happened before and global 820 is full of scammers buying for cheap, not uber trials anymore). I'm quite stuck (and the dream trial prophecy took ages to activate when I bought one (considering the deaths, I should be around level 94 I think, if not 95). Will look into the flasks (and that damn geofri' !).

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Trulls_Rohk เขียน:

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nexoe14 เขียน:

Newbie question
Is there any difference using a bow rather than maul damage wise? Also does it matter if the bow have high item level or low? In terms of dcapping dex?

I am going to buy a weapon with

+1 level to socketed gems.
Grants avian
Minions deal x damage
Can have up to 3 cradted
+2 level of socketed support
Minions have increased attack speed
Minions have increased cast speed

Using Maul/Mace allows you to use cyclone/cast while channeling/desecrate/offering.
Bow you have to either manually cast desecrate/offering or use CWDT setup.

Can use Scourge Arrow with Bow for CWC

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Fudsduds เขียน:

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Trulls_Rohk เขียน:

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nexoe14 เขียน:

Newbie question
Is there any difference using a bow rather than maul damage wise? Also does it matter if the bow have high item level or low? In terms of dcapping dex?

I am going to buy a weapon with

+1 level to socketed gems.
Grants avian
Minions deal x damage
Can have up to 3 cradted
+2 level of socketed support
Minions have increased attack speed
Minions have increased cast speed

Using Maul/Mace allows you to use cyclone/cast while channeling/desecrate/offering.
Bow you have to either manually cast desecrate/offering or use CWDT setup.

Can use Scourge Arrow with Bow for CWC

which is better for min-maxing?? bow or maul?? I have both but planning on selling one of them.. I haven't tried using the bow yet because I'm still waiting for inputs on the max build.. and can you move while channeling Scourge Arrow? and another question about dread banner, do I have to cyclone in order to stack dread banner??? and do I have to plant it or just carry it??

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MourningBlade เขียน:

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Chaoisia เขียน:

Could anyone explain to me how Death Attunement is obtained in this version of the build?

https://pastebin.com/SZmdnv4A

Like is there something I'm missing or is this version of the build isn't doable?

Going for more of a fast mapping version of the build.

Anoint oils to an amulet (Astraments usually).

Thanks for the reply. I don't know a lot of the game mechanics yet.

Since Death Attunement is obtained through anointing oils then what is the purpose of Thread Of Hope. I see it in 2 versions of the build on PoB but there are no passives in the area of the jewel that is taken. I'm highly confused by this.

The anointment of your amulet is for Death Attunement.

Thread of hope can give you (with the right ring, which should be medium if my memory serves me correctly) : Cruel preparation, Ravenous horde and possibly, if you need points, Heart and Soul (do not recommend that one, I used it to shave one point of 5% life and 5% mana, see how that served me till now). You have to add them manually in POB (edit your thread of Hope and add "Allocates Cruel Preparation".

The medium ring Thread of hope cannot give you Death attunement.