[3.16] g00fy_goober's Ball Lightning Miner Saboteur (Easily clear all content) REVAMPED

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subliminaldelta เขียน:

Is there an alternative for this build to use CI instead of LL?

No. If it was it would be written in the guide. Not sure why you would want to go CI over LL anyway considering LL is the next step in builds and is much stronger, especially with harvest crafting being back.

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g00fy_goober เขียน:

You need to read and follow the guide. I mean the first thing I looked at was your gemsetup and you are using GMP which is a massive waste of a gem and a huge dps loss.

Saw you are using prism guardian which is not in the build and has no value what so ever for our the build. Making you lose a ton of ES and a lot of damage.

Didn't even look at anything further than that.

That's probably because I'm using gmp for map clear? What are you thinking I'm doing a9's with a gmp in my setup? xD
I'm insta phasing a9 sirus with this setup so I'm pretty sure I'm doing okay.

Also if you read the comment entirely you'd see I changed the build around differently, so I really did not follow your guide anymore.

The only reason I came back to see if you've answered my question as to why did it do so little damage and if I did something wrong I missed. Then I saw the other dude having the same issue so I offered him a solution.


Edit: Also You really didn't even take a look at the PoB I sent you. Because if You did You'd see I used slower proj in the setup but instead You took the PoB of a changed, different build, not Yours and then proceeded to shit on it because it's not the same as Yours.

I hope you have a lovely day my dude :)

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TimePirrrate เขียน:

That's probably because I'm using gmp for map clear? What are you thinking I'm doing a9's with a gmp in my setup? xD
I'm insta phasing a9 sirus with this setup so I'm pretty sure I'm doing okay.

Also if you read the comment entirely you'd see I changed the build around differently, so I really did not follow your guide anymore.

The only reason I came back to see if you've answered my question as to why did it do so little damage and if I did something wrong I missed. Then I saw the other dude having the same issue so I offered him a solution.


Edit: Also You really didn't even take a look at the PoB I sent you. Because if You did You'd see I used slower proj in the setup but instead You took the PoB of a changed, different build, not Yours and then proceeded to shit on it because it's not the same as Yours.

I hope you have a lovely day my dude :)

Using GMP for map clear sounds like a giant unneeded nerf to damage. No I did not miss the fact that you changed the build. Changing the build for the worse and losing damage is not my idea of changing a build around to make it feel better.

That being said, you are free to change and play a build however you like. What I can tell you is that you seem to be struggling with my version of the build yet the god knows how many ppl playing BL miners all with the same sort of setups seem to be doing fine, as does the last 30 pages of responses all in the last few leagues who seem to make the build work every league.

Looking at a pastebin you submitted is not something I would waste my time or yours on. Everything is in the guide it is laid out pretty well including the pob and the damage numbers and the gear and the things to get and look for. You can compare what you have to what was posted just as easily as I can. You don't need me to take time away from playing poe myself this league to compare something you alrdy have access to and point out the differences.

As for your edit. I did not shit on your for changing a build you are free to change things however you like, it matters very little to me whether it is mine or yours. As you can see from video/guide/response/pob I obviously had no issues in making the build work.

You seem to have taken offense to the fact that I didn't take time to specially look at your character or pob you submitted just to do the leg work and comparison that you can obviously do yourself. Sorry that offended you so much. Glad your new and improved GMP ball lightning build is working out so great for you.

Hi g00fy_goober,

Nice build, thanks for that. Could you please explain few choices? I'm trying to go for LL from life based build. At the moment I am missing damage the most.

Prism guardian vs es based shield? Most ppl are using prism, at least in poe.ninja

Hubris circle vs Crown of the Inward Eye? Doesnt crown give more es and damage?

Extra proj vs BL damage helm enchant? Which one is better for bossing? Doesn't extra proj double our damage?

Circle of regret vs mark of the sharper? Which one gives more dps?

I want to use this build for bossing only as I have another for maps.

Thanks in advance

Easiest way to get burning and chill on mines to maximize Explosives Expert?

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sHieNaS เขียน:

Hi g00fy_goober,

Nice build, thanks for that. Could you please explain few choices? I'm trying to go for LL from life based build. At the moment I am missing damage the most.

Prism guardian vs es based shield? Most ppl are using prism, at least in poe.ninja

Hubris circle vs Crown of the Inward Eye? Doesnt crown give more es and damage?

Extra proj vs BL damage helm enchant? Which one is better for bossing? Doesn't extra proj double our damage?

Circle of regret vs mark of the sharper? Which one gives more dps?

I want to use this build for bossing only as I have another for maps.

Thanks in advance

Item by item comparisons can all be figured out in POB. I can't tell you which item is going to be what with all the calculations and choices that go into a build.

As for shield, prism guardian is a super easy way to go low life right? And it's like a 10c unique. But it basically is summed up into +2 level of socketed aura gems and reduced mana reservation. No idea what ppl are socketing in it, but having a +1 gems, spell crit, spell dmg, mass es shield is going to blow it out of the water in any regards. The difference is they are much much MUCH more expensive and it is still only a few weeks into league.

As for crown it is a great unique, but no, not sure how it would give more ES or dmg... Now even if you went a different annoint on the tree and grabbed crown of inward eye, you would still be losing a couple hundred flat es on helm and the global ES makes up some but you still lose ES overall. You also lose any str/res and -lightning dmg that you had on the hubris. Again this being said, an end game hubris with 350+ es -light res, str/res or some other godly stuff from harvest is going to be a cost in time and money where as a 5c sirus crown is much easier to snag start of a league.

Your question about enchant is covered word for word in the guide.

Regret vs shaper ring also question for POB. When build was first made you had 100%/60% and now it is only 60/60. Still gives intel, flat lightning, light res, 60% buff and 60% lightning dmg, so I don't see how this would lose to an 80% spell dmg 1 mod ring.

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subliminaldelta เขียน:

Easiest way to get burning and chill on mines to maximize Explosives Expert?

Enemies are already shocked and chilled because of skitterbots. Would have to find some way to ignite enemies or get some sort of fire damage to ignite mobs. Probably some fire dmg roll on a ring or something would be the easiest.

Ok seriously, can anyone give me some feedback? 6,690 health and I'm still getting mauled in rare maps. I tried introducing cluster jewels but I had to go off the recommended tree.

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subliminaldelta เขียน:

Ok seriously, can anyone give me some feedback? 6,690 health and I'm still getting mauled in rare maps. I tried introducing cluster jewels but I had to go off the recommended tree.

Life doesn't matter if your defensive layers are poor. Post POB or tell us what other defensive layers you're using.

Hey goofy, how would you compare your build to "BeerLeague's C/SC/SSF All Content Miner" [1]?


[1] https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2660573

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thalesfc เขียน:

Hey goofy, how would you compare your build to "BeerLeague's C/SC/SSF All Content Miner" [1]?


[1] https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2660573

I wouldn't.

I don't compare builds. I wouldn't take the time to go through and look at entire guide just to compare the two things and would be the same exact thing you could do as you have access to both as well. Look at the two, look at the differences, and you tell me.