👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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PowerfulX99 เขียน:

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spaceace7373 เขียน:

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PowerfulX99 เขียน:

Is the skele mage build still viable? Is alberons warpath an insta slot in for that now?

Edit: Woops didn't know that alberons warpath IS build in slot lol. I didn't check all of it my bad.

skelemage is viable but not budget friendly in my opinion. leveling will not be fun but if you can get good gear with good gems i think it's fine. they still melt everything even with the nerfs lol

zombies and support spectres die fast now so you have to resummon them occasionally. stone golem is pretty solid for me so far as is AG.

mana is an issue however when you have to summon skeletons all the time now but i myself don't mind that as i prefer to play necro with minions in any rpg anyway.

i also only play standard as i never get enough time to finish a build and i don't like having to start all over every 3 months or so

I'm playing in standard as well so i can slowly but surely make some progress here and there, mana MIGHT be less of an issue now since alberons makes skeletons perma minions now so that may help it would still be an issue if they keep dying though.

I have some amount of currency in standard from past leagues so hopefully leveling a necro up to speed wont be an issue, I'll take your word for it and try it out. Cheers bro!

Alberons Doesn't do Mages, only Skeleton Warriors. although it's still nice for the other stats. rare boots will be better now

Hey Kay, is your lootfilter updated ?

The soft one were hidding random gems with quality. They're very important for begginners. (recipes and so on)

So - no more Necromancers in this shit game. GGG complete nerf to zero all kind of summoner's

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xenophobius เขียน:

So - no more Necromancers in this shit game. GGG complete nerf to zero all kind of summoner's

necro is still good for bomber builds :\

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ikkyhirsch เขียน:

Hey Kay, is your lootfilter updated ?

The soft one were hidding random gems with quality. They're very important for begginners. (recipes and so on)

Hm... not sure why it is hiding on soft :( I don't change rules actually. I just change the default sound to custom sounds.

so a day or two before the league i was worried about the missing minion duration from necro in the guardian srs version but no one answered me in here.

i went with guardian anyways and it works well sure, but im now 85 and cant rly get more than 15srs out and i think the 2-3seconds more duration the necro gets makes the difference here between having all 20 srs out or just 15.

i think i have to go and get the duration wheel near scion to get all srs out, did you forget about that or how did you plan to reach max srs with the guardian build?


Edit: did some math for it, the following assumes unrelistic perfect seal timing and no srs spamming

with lvl 20 unleash you get a seal every 0.71 seconds thats 2.84s between each cast, or to get 5srs out.

2.84s * 3 = 8.52s to get enough seals for 15srs, note here the guardian builds srs only lasts 8.2seconds thats enough to have 15 most of the time, but its impossible to get more than 15 srs out if you only cast them whith full seals.

to get 20 srs out we need more than 8.52s duration and as close to 11.36s duration (time to get 4 full seals) to actually have them do something while they live.

necromancer has 10.7s srs duration thats just ~0.6s under perfect uptime,
as guardian we can get one of the duration wheels near scion to get 45% increased duration and get to 10.4s srs duration, or with mastery even 11.5s srs duration.

to get a conclusion out of this lets take the dps numbers kay posted a few days ago:
necro build: 374,4k dps per srs
guardian build: 501,6k dps per srs

max dps necro build with: ~7,48m dps with 20srs
max dps guardian build with: ~7,5m dps with 15srs

max dps guardian build + duration nodes: ~10m dps with 20srs

so pretty much 33% more dmg for 3 travel points and 3-4 points into duration.

i would say that is kinda mandatory if you cant get duration somewhere else(if so enlighten me pls)

Some preliminary feedback: I am doing SRS Bomber, I just finished the campaign and it was pretty smooth so far, not super powerful like some other starter builds but no problems at all. Then I got the Tavukai and a 5L armor and these made the build really shine. The rest of my gear is still random campaign stuff and I don't have a spectre at all yet, but early maps are super easy.

I have played SRS before but not Minion Instability, and I really like the bomber version better. Unleash + the damage coming from the explosions makes it so you can cast and move on, as opposed to regular SRS that plays more like channeling and requires you yo stay still a lot more. So bomber feels a lot better, at least in early mapping so far. This may change against tougher enemies, but also my current gear is completely trash and I am level 71.

Quick question, how do we use Bone Armor and Molten Shell? Just use whichever is better with our gear?

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Devilator เขียน:

Quick question, how do we use Bone Armor and Molten Shell? Just use whichever is better with our gear?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we're taking Bone Armour just because of the "minion life" mod, and Molten Shell is just better compare to other guard skills.

Yes but Molten Shell is based off your armor value so it takes a while before you gear up to the point where it becomes better than Bone Armor.

Bone Armor, you have access to it from early on in the campaign and it offers a good chunk of protection into early mapping. It also doesn't take up a gem slot that you might not yet have early in the game.

In hindsight, the answer to my question was obvious.

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Devilator เขียน:

Yes but Molten Shell is based off your armor value so it takes a while before you gear up to the point where it becomes better than Bone Armor.

Bone Armor, you have access to it from early on in the campaign and it offers a good chunk of protection into early mapping. It also doesn't take up a gem slot that you might not yet have early in the game.

In hindsight, the answer to my question was obvious.

I was in a big rush to finish the guide before league start so some of the info was left out!! Sorry.

You are right! Supposed to use Bone Armour from Act 7. At the same time, level up Molten Shell until it's ready to take over. (and as Elaine said it's 20% more life > damage)

You can also try the new red covenant. 240% increased damage, butreduces max SRS to 5. Unleash is 5 anyway...



If you invest into the build you can get big numbers :) I'll make the guide soon.