[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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alajvad เขียน:

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WinterHiko เขียน:

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alajvad เขียน:

Hey, guys!

I am feeling quite comfortably, managed to kill uber maven / sirus / elder without issues.
Can someone suggest things I can improve my build with apart from mega amulet with %int / %attributes / %damagePerInt, I am farming for it right now, but maybe there are less expensive upgrade.

You can Divine your Cyclone staff to 18% int and your helmet to get 10%int.

Charge on crit on your flask would be the best prefix, especially against bosses.

You can try to find a more expensive Watcher's Eye with two Hatred mods, but honestly, that's going to be super pricey. Maybe a Discipline mod. Something like Hatred/Clarity/Discipline.

You should spend a point on the ES mastery for stun threshold. 3% more damage from Polymath, for starters, and your Corundum flask does little if your stun threshold is super low. Entirely worth it, especially for Ubers who will stun you often without it and prevent blinking to safety.

Oh, didn't notice I don't have max rolled %int on staff and helmet, thank you!

Better watcher's eye is expensive too, I think I'd benefit more from mega+amulet.

As for the stun threshold, I am using awakened CwC for stun immunity while mapping and bosses do not seem to stun.

Than you!

While bossing, it's less visible, but especially on Ubers, sometimes you'll try to Frostblink out of danger and it won't work. Think the triple ball from Uber Shaper. Sometimes you get stunned by the first one and killed by the other two. Or Sirus's first Die beam stunning you out of dodging the others. It really makes a difference and it's only one point.

I am strong considering making this my second build this league, but I am curious what people think of Inquisitor for Icestorm instead of Trickster.

This reddit post is several leagues old, but I am wondering how much of it would still apply.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/usinv4/the_objectively_strongest_whispering_ice/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Would love the opinion of the OP or anyone else who has played Icestorm before :)

Are you supposed to link frost bomb with cwdt-immortal call-increased duration or is it 3-red-link 1-blue?

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Poizoom เขียน:

Are you supposed to link frost bomb with cwdt-immortal call-increased duration or is it 3-red-link 1-blue?

Yes, you link it.

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Fengar95 เขียน:

I am strong considering making this my second build this league, but I am curious what people think of Inquisitor for Icestorm instead of Trickster.

This reddit post is several leagues old, but I am wondering how much of it would still apply.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/usinv4/the_objectively_strongest_whispering_ice/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Would love the opinion of the OP or anyone else who has played Icestorm before :)

That thread was made before the Trickster rework. At the time, the most popular way of building WI was Scion.

The Trickster rework gave us an ascendancy with tons of ES, Overleech, Polymath and great EV/ES synergy.

The Inquisitor has interesting stuff, for sure. However, its big thing is consecrated ground being boosted. For that, you need to be stationnary every four seconds (not great with Cyclone). The travel nodes gve life regen and the consecrated grounds give life regen, so now you have to get Zealot's Oath to compensate. To get the bonus from Righteous Providence, you need to stack som Strength. Inevitable Judgment would lwoer our DPS with all of the cold pen we have and while Augury of Penitence is nice, it's not incredible.

You're giving away 20% increased ES, 1/6 of chest EV as ES, 24-27% more damage, Leech and Overleech, 8-9% ES/mana recov in kill, 40% less damage hlaf the time and you're getting what? 11% ES regen with Zealot's Oath and if you stand still every 4 seconds, 40% increased damage, 10 crit multi, 50str/int, 8% ele dmg and 16%increased damage taken for enemies.

Taking Kelvynn's budget version, switching to Inquis would give you 10-15% more damage, but you'd be squishy as hell, for example.

The post you linked didn't use CI, but used a body armour for Chaos damage to hit mana before life. That's an awful idea IMO. To get enough mana available to tank chaos damage, you'd need to let go of an aura, which cripples you way more than waht you gain. Plus, the chest piece is subpar when compared to what we can craft.

All in all, I think it's an interesting idea, but since the Trickster rework, the sheer tankiness of that ascendancy makes Inquisitor not viable in comparison, unfortunately.

Been leveling the trickster version and following the guide lvel 54 cycloning my way though is a breeze also did 2cnd lab no issues. Only issue ive found with the guide is switching to CI so early, currently I have 700 life and 1.7k ES running hatred, purity, and disc. I bought some rares to replace the leveling uniques but im not comfortable switching to CI just yet.

POB if anyone wants to look/ give me some feedback, but I am literally breezing through the campaign, overleveled but whatever.

POB

https://pastebin.com/ZKB7XUP2

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KingExodusGG เขียน:

Been leveling the trickster version and following the guide lvel 54 cycloning my way though is a breeze also did 2cnd lab no issues. Only issue ive found with the guide is switching to CI so early, currently I have 700 life and 1.7k ES running hatred, purity, and disc. I bought some rares to replace the leveling uniques but im not comfortable switching to CI just yet.

POB if anyone wants to look/ give me some feedback, but I am literally breezing through the campaign, overleveled but whatever.

POB

https://pastebin.com/ZKB7XUP2

Last time I leveled with this build, I switch to CI only for difficult Chaos-based boss. If you feel too squishy for your tastes with CI, just unnallocate it until some chaos damage dealer wrecks you up.

If you're still in campaign, I'm not sure looking at your PoB will yield any interesting result over the very detailed leveling PoB. Stack int, get ES in every slot except body where you get EV/ES, follow the leveling guide and you should be all good.

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WinterHiko เขียน:

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KingExodusGG เขียน:

Been leveling the trickster version and following the guide lvel 54 cycloning my way though is a breeze also did 2cnd lab no issues. Only issue ive found with the guide is switching to CI so early, currently I have 700 life and 1.7k ES running hatred, purity, and disc. I bought some rares to replace the leveling uniques but im not comfortable switching to CI just yet.

POB if anyone wants to look/ give me some feedback, but I am literally breezing through the campaign, overleveled but whatever.

POB

https://pastebin.com/ZKB7XUP2

Last time I leveled with this build, I switch to CI only for difficult Chaos-based boss. If you feel too squishy for your tastes with CI, just unnallocate it until some chaos damage dealer wrecks you up.

If you're still in campaign, I'm not sure looking at your PoB will yield any interesting result over the very detailed leveling PoB. Stack int, get ES in every slot except body where you get EV/ES, follow the leveling guide and you should be all good.

Yeah I followed it to the T except I added some CWDT hextouch ball lightning condocutivity for lols, but im not used to CI play style and my energy leech isnt high enough, so if i WAS ci I would just dance away let it regen and go back to battle, I love this build, Im just hoping I cna farm legions with it, if not, I already dis-assembled my poison PF totem to respec to mana forge, I LOVE grand design with legion and mechanics, the more mob density the happier I am. My goal is to get to maps today. Thanks for the reply.

Heya, question while im casualing my way back to 95: I totally ignored the league mechanic thus far, is there a good "guide" for how to get those insane staves?

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milkytwix เขียน:

Heya, question while im casualing my way back to 95: I totally ignored the league mechanic thus far, is there a good "guide" for how to get those insane staves?

There's a post earlier in the thread with all the info.