What happened to Engaging Combat? Video Feedback.

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ShiyoKozuki#4168 เขียน:

I want the genre to evolve instead of continuing to de-evolve into this vampire survivors cookier clicker slot machine gambling simulator.

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AverBeg7#1689 เขียน:

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ShiyoKozuki#4168 เขียน:

I want the genre to evolve instead of continuing to de-evolve into this vampire survivors cookier clicker slot machine gambling simulator.

Okay if you wanna help, then play the game and post some feedback that is more specific than "do it better with less monsters" and more helpful than "all arpg has no combat"

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cowmoo275#3095 เขียน:

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

no not really man, playing semantics is a fun way to avoid acknowledging the answers you are getting.

its pretty clear to me that people are speaking of combat that lets you 'play the game' on a second monitor while watching YT.

this thread has 30 pages. official build examples were given, exact points in the game were pin pointed. but many will still come here and refuse to acknowledge any of it.

I mean....none of this is true. I have acknowledged everything said to me, and offered counter-arguments. The one question that was NEVER answered was the one you quoted. And those "examples" you bring up are all of wildly different parts of the game, and different levels of "combat", and different builds and styles of play. That's sort of the point....

And you still didn't say exactly what "engaging combat" means to you in PoE 2....and you also made incorrect assumptions about other people too in exactly the same way you are accusing me and others of doing in this post. Do you not see that?

The only semblance of an answer I got was from the OP when he said "Every rare should be like a mini-boss". THAT is something to work with, I acknowledged it, and refuted it. Because such a design can't possibly work in the setting of PoE 2. One thing would need to happen for this to be a viable design path: rares would need to FAR more rare, and drop a hell of a lot more loot....but then what happens to all that time between rares? And if they DIDN'T make that adjustment....what happens when you have 2, 3, and 4 rares on top of you all at once? What happens when you literally can't progress more than a few steps every 5 minutes? Where will the drops come from? How long will it take to get to the next stage of your character development?

Is that TRULY going to be an engaging game experience, within the context of a loot-based arpg character builder game?

"It's pretty clear to me that people are speaking of combat ..... on a second monitor while watching youtube".....really, that's clear to you? Then you haven't read anything written in this thread, and formed an opinion on what anyone might say back at you about 20 pages ago and ignored everything since.

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cowmoo275#3095 เขียน:

^First off, that's in a different thread.

Second....that video is from the freaking closed beta of PoE, at least a few months before its full release.

And guess what? At the SAME TIME as that video, there were builds that deleted the end Act 3 boss in less than 2 seconds. All the Cast on Critical strike build videos from the time. I played them.

Cherry picking one example of ONE extremely slow build, being showcased in campaign areas and no endgame.....doesn't prove or show anything.

And does that video show engaging combat? It shows SLOW combat and few enemies, sure....but engaging? Every enemy dies in one hit and he takes no damage. He doesn't use more than a single skill for nearly the entire video.

Is that your idea of engaging combat? What exactly are you trying to "prove" with that?

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cowmoo275#3095 เขียน:

But your example......isn't an example of anything. What am I supposed to do with it?

What are you trying to say by linking that video? Explain it to me?

That the build showcased was OP for its time? And only killed one white mob at a time?

What on earth does that have to do with this thread or anything being discussed? It doesn't show any form of engaging combat, nor did you even try to explain that it was.


"What difference does it make that its in a different thread".....uh, you accused me of not reading THIS thread. And you give me a quoted post from a completely different thread with no context lol. Are you serious?