[3.1] GLADIATOR 1H+Shield Max Block&Spell Block Tank + a BoR version

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Placebo334 เขียน:

What's your gear like?

Check my characters tab, its public (I have nothing to hide). That said, I'm aware that my gear is pretty lacking.

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Dooder39 เขียน:

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Placebo334 เขียน:

What's your gear like?

Check my characters tab, its public (I have nothing to hide). That said, I'm aware that my gear is pretty lacking.

buy yourself:
1) a weapon with more than 200 physical dps
2) Crest of Perandus unique shiled
3) Meginord's Girdle unique belt
4) either a Tabula Rasa or a white 5-link armor chest and drop 1 alch on it

the first three things cost 1 chaos each
a Tabula is like 12c, a white 5-link around 3c depending on the base

with minimal investment you can fly well into maps, i had a Crest of Perandus and a Tabula till level 81 and tier 6 maps
i still have Meginord equipped

I spec'd out of Violent Retaliation and into Outmatch and Outlast and it's vastly superior. The node before it alone is like 4 VR blocks and most of the time you don't get that many more anyway (the lack of 2% block is negligible to me since I wear legacy BoR). You can get 5 frenzy charges easily, that's 20% MORE damage + 20% IAS (which also beats the movement speed from VR since we're using leap slam to move around).

We're gaining endurance charges through other means and honestly I don't know which build they had in mind for "off hand kills" since even dual strike counts as main hand kills (see here).

So like a poster a page or so back. I'm still up in the air between EQ and Ice Crash. I'm swapping between the two, but I'm not sure which to pick. Is it Doryani's for Ice Crash and Soul Taker for EQ?

Trying to see which attack will eventually eek out the most at the end of the day. I'm a total noob at this so any thoughts would be appreciated.

Would Reave be a possibility with this build?

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Bataille เขียน:

I spec'd out of Violent Retaliation and into Outmatch and Outlast and it's vastly superior. The node before it alone is like 4 VR blocks and most of the time you don't get that many more anyway (the lack of 2% block is negligible to me since I wear legacy BoR). You can get 5 frenzy charges easily, that's 20% MORE damage + 20% IAS (which also beats the movement speed from VR since we're using leap slam to move around).

We're gaining endurance charges through other means and honestly I don't know which build they had in mind for "off hand kills" since even dual strike counts as main hand kills (see here).

the only situation where you really need the more damage from frenzy charges would be at hard bosses - but there you won't have them because they are expired
i agree with you that VR is not that great usually but i don't think OaO is better overall

furthermore - where do you get the 3 passive points for the fifth frenzy charge?

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Dooder39 เขียน:

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Placebo334 เขียน:

What's your gear like?

Check my characters tab, its public (I have nothing to hide). That said, I'm aware that my gear is pretty lacking.

you should get +xx to Maximum life on your items, so it will get increased with ur passive Points +xx% increased Maximum life.

my gear


BoR 3chaos
Axe 3chaos
rings 4chaos
shield 2chaos
belt ~5chaos
gloves ~5chaos

edit: have ~4.2k life and still 4 life nodes to get
currently saving up to get that aegis Aurora and then Switch my boots and rings to get resis and better rings
after that trying to get a 6-Link astral plate, ST and Alpha's Howl+Conquerer's Efficiency to use Hatred+HoA+Blasphemy for more DPS

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MrZimz เขียน:

after that trying to get a 6-Link astral plate, ST and Alpha's Howl+Conquerer's Efficiency to use Hatred+HoA+Blasphemy for more DPS

with that you have 100% mana reserved - how do you plan to attack?

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BeRse เขียน:

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MrZimz เขียน:

after that trying to get a 6-Link astral plate, ST and Alpha's Howl+Conquerer's Efficiency to use Hatred+HoA+Blasphemy for more DPS

with that you have 100% mana reserved - how do you plan to attack?

ST = Soul Taker = Melee attacks aren't prevented by lack of mana

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Bataille เขียน:

I spec'd out of Violent Retaliation and into Outmatch and Outlast and it's vastly superior. The node before it alone is like 4 VR blocks and most of the time you don't get that many more anyway (the lack of 2% block is negligible to me since I wear legacy BoR). You can get 5 frenzy charges easily, that's 20% MORE damage + 20% IAS (which also beats the movement speed from VR since we're using leap slam to move around).

Frenzy Charges definitely offer the most damage, but you can already get them whereas VR and GV are unique bonuses.

* Non-Aegis want Blood Rage for IAS and leech
* Non-RT can swap Warlord's for Poacher's for the accuracy and potentially more sustain
* Versatile Combatant replaces Rainbowstrides, which opens up Blood Dance
* All of these including O&O are on kill so bosses may require Frenzy skill

For any IR build I think Blood Dance are BIS since they have the lowest opportunity cost for Frenzy charges while giving useful offensive/defensive modifiers and the DEX can save you a skill point.

Between VR and GV will depend on how fast you kill. If you're struggling with clearing you might be at 10+ stacks so Violent Retaliation will be better whereas if you're faster GV will probably help more against bosses (Bleed will be negligible, but offers 30% increased damage).

Ultimately I'm still not sure which of the two are better, but O&O seems very lackluster given alternative generation options.