On Sin, the cipher teaser, LIES and DECEPTION - Updated with Kulemak teaser

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Lachdanan#4036 เขียน:

Another theory of mine, all edicts are active all the time.



and i have no clue what a edict ist.

Don't know if somebody already said this, but the symbol at the right is the same icon that represents the Witch, and the center one, the Ranger. I don't know what the left one is.

I'm feeling a bit stupid cause i'm sure someone already said that...

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

After seeing the teaser with the Hoodie arming/using the weapon and speaking of 3rd edict I'm not so sure. If this goes off, we are back in the refuge (past), but Hoodie is arming this in Present, and in act 3? Time travel man, not even once.
Logically it should happen right before maps. There is this option of refuge being part of the campaign like they did in poe1 when they converted old endgame access map devices into questlines, but chances for this are slim.

Also how can Dory know anything about the present, in terms of karui and that they are key to finding this weapon. my impression was that the ancestors/act4 will be in the past.

i also suspected they would drop more than 1 act with 0.3 to get rid of cruel difficulty. very hard to tell how they will do it now. Hype is strong with this one, cant wait for the interview

i thought it was past too, here's why in my head.

Considering they arent cuttin off scenes or part of act 3 cruel:

Hoodie used the time portal to go back in time to rescue the weapon, so what we see in the trailer could actually be the past?

Also if we consider the cruel part of act 3 when we save Alva and capture Dory, (quest tracker is telling me to talk wit dory in ziggurat encampment and doesnt say past or present) we get out of the black chambers using the town portal and it teleports us to Ziggurat Encampment (Past), once there we start the dialogue with Dory and the Time Gate shut off (Hoodie already got in the past) due to the explosion, meaning we are locked in the past.

The Ziggurat refugee where we wake up is also past (it's temple of kopec in the present)so it also makes sense to use the map device to travel between lands (at least once to move to karui?)

The issue for me here ia that we need a new "end" of the story that lead us to maps, since we used dory and the explosion as the end of act 3 and beginning of act 4.
This is also why progressing in the present would be easier, no explosion n stuff so the world is still there and we can travel without using devices but the part with dory and the explosion gets removed (for now or completely?)

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

once there we start the dialogue with Dory and the Time Gate shut off (Hoodie already got in the past) due to the explosion, meaning we are locked in the past.

The Ziggurat refugee where we wake up is also past (it's temple of kopec in the present)so it also makes sense to use the map device to travel between lands (at least once to move to karui?)

yeah, i like this. this goes well with the repurposing of the refuge as part of campaign (maybe it was planned all along) it could also explain why karui lands are infected with the corruption, while still being in the past. Not convinced that Hoodie crossed the portal tho, he didn't follow us, Alva did. there might be a reason why not, maybe he can't? ... and it looks like the actual entrance to maps would involve oriath type quest line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go4ykizk_Uo
i was just convinced it would be about boom boom just because of its magnitude... again im very curious how they will un-fubar everything if Hoodie actually sets this off

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

Not convinced that Hoodie crossed the portal tho, he didn't follow us, Alva did. there might be a reason why not, maybe he can't? ... and it looks like the actual entrance to maps would involve oriath type quest line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go4ykizk_Uo
i was just convinced it would be about boom boom just because of its magnitude... again im very curious how they will un-fubar everything if Hoodie actually sets this off

Well if he didn't cross the portal and we are locked in the past (still supposing we are), how he managed to forge the weapon?

Dory says he has one piece of it (this is why Hoodie want us to capture him) and the other two are somewhere out there.
He tried to search for the missing 2 pieces but the karui interfered.

Option A - Hoodie is still in the present and managed to steal that one piece of the weapon from doryani then collected the other two and forged the weapon?

What are we doing in the past then? Just trying to get back to our era?

Option B - Hoodie is in the past with us and knows (he does know everything) where are the missing parts, eventually found them and dory gives him the last piece (or hoodie steals it) and forge the weapon?


Option C - you're right and hoodie didnt cross the portal, he stay in the present to gather to other 2 pieces of the weapon.
Knowing dory has the last piece he help us to get back to the present and what we see in the trailer could middle-end of act 3?

D - none of the above, we arent locked into the past, the scene of the explosion during end of act 3 cruel only served the purpose to fill the gap between campaign and maps.
We simply progress going to the arcipelago as doryani told us in the present and hoodie agree about that.

I dug too deep, i flew too high and now my wings are being clipped. Not sure how much I can share nor what I can speculate on. Next vacation might be the end of me. this traveler gotta be very weary.

I will just say what still confuses me:
Hoodie speaking of 3rd Edict, 3 parts to the weapon, but we heard about 4th edict from the grand judge himself. 5 edicts on kalandra's face but 6 acts total were promised.

what would be neat is if we get 5 stable acts that deal with main story and 6th act dedicated to league introduction. lots of work to make new act each season but oh so juicy it would be.

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HerzMayhem#5123 เขียน:

Don't know if somebody already said this, but the symbol at the right is the same icon that represents the Witch, and the center one, the Ranger.

I checked, in charcreation are similar symbols for the different classes, yet not exact copies, ascension may upgrade the symbol to extravagancy.

So Halls of the Dead is Warrior-related ?

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

I dug too deep, i flew too high and now my wings are being clipped. Not sure how much I can share nor what I can speculate on. Next vacation might be the end of me. this traveler gotta be very weary.

I will just say what still confuses me:
Hoodie speaking of 3rd Edict, 3 parts to the weapon, but we heard about 4th edict from the grand judge himself. 5 edicts on kalandra's face but 6 acts total were promised.

what would be neat is if we get 5 stable acts that deal with main story and 6th act dedicated to league introduction. lots of work to make new act each season but oh so juicy it would be.

It's the actual ending that's confusing.
We are really locked in to the past during maps, at the portal we witnessed the first Cataclysm and we are cleansing corruption from the atlas so Wraeclast can be rebuilt n stuff (Alva says if we fail we might not even exist)

The quest Cataclysm's Wake is the tutorial for endgame, i dont think they will remove it.
It's so well linked to the plot that i think, probably in act 6, we will have to go the past to do something.
Arbiter of Ash mention the fourth edict in the past (we meet him in endgame which is past).

Also if you go to Ziggurat Encampment (present) the Gateway remains open in the present era, meaning at some point we could use it again.

I might lack in fantasy or creativity here but since i saw many mentioning these edicts:

Act 4: Third Edict (present)
Act 5: Fourth Edict or something related (past)
Act 6: Fifth Edict or something related (past and attempt to get back to present)

Who's digging too deep now :D

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Lachdanan#4036 เขียน:

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HerzMayhem#5123 เขียน:

Don't know if somebody already said this, but the symbol at the right is the same icon that represents the Witch, and the center one, the Ranger.

I checked, in charcreation are similar symbols for the different classes, yet not exact copies, ascension may upgrade the symbol to extravagancy.

So Halls of the Dead is Warrior-related ?

but warrior is related to Karui..... hmmm
if which symbol would be swapped with Sorc then I would say bingo because Sorc is Marakath, but what is witch? does she even care?

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IILU81II#8410 เขียน:

Act 4: Third Edict (present)
Act 5: Fourth Edict or something related (past)
Act 6: Fifth Edict or something related (past and attempt to get back to present)

Who's digging too deep now :D

this looks MUCH better in my head now. The lady speaks about triggering rebirth at all cost, this might align with Hoddies goals.... maybe the boom boom will (eventually) happen at the very end. maybe Hoodie switches sides and joins her... till then i think there will be few more placeholders.

The leftmost symbol pertains to Innocence. He's featured on the Health Globe in game, representing Life. The rightmost symbol represents Sin, the Mana Globe. The second from the left is a combination of the Strength-based class symbols, the middle Dexterity, and the fourth is Intelligence. There's an original PoE II logo that features the Marauder in position 2, Witch at 3, and Ranger fourth. You'd think that the middle one would be Intelligence because that would fit with the way the passive tree is oriented but whatever, it's their game.

At least that's what I thought at first. If you look closer you'll see that Solaris is on the left side of the XP bar at position 2 with Lunaris at position 4 at the opposite end. That leaves none other than Viridi, the forgotten sister, in the middle. Maybe the entire exp bar represents her in some way allegorically, or her physical absence. This idea also matches the spectrum of visible light with the color of balance, green, the color of nature, at the center, sandwiched in between the Infrared (Sol) and the Ultraviolet (Mon).

1. Innocence
2. Solaris
3. Viridi
4. Lunaris
5. Sin

Yes, Act 4 is still in the Present.

I like that explanation.
Edicts are the words that get spoken by those halfwitted deities.
Thus the symbols are not the edicts.

So 5.ShadowSin invokes the edict#3 of "viridian wildwood twilight?",
don´t know if thats legal to ally with opposing&unfriendly forces ?

Even more troubling, if a ascendency is called "order of twilight", are we going to summon plants to battle instead of compagnions ?? :)

Edit3: From the beginning of time, symbol1&5 were being called "descrys" which confused me with the introduction of the word "edict", 3rd descry looks like a tree now to me. AHHHHHHHHHHHH.