Why are other abusers not banned?

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SaiyanZ#3112 เขียน:

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aCB453Om25#0400 เขียน:

Really simple, because they did nothing malicious or bannable.

GGG Simply overlooked something that has been done in POE1 for years. Reseting a zone and farming the league mechanic has been used in many previous leagues, so nothing new. Thats entirely how the game works. It was simply an unwanted interaction which should've been addressed in development by GGG.

Banning those people is not right, they played the game as it was intended. They didn't use bugs, glitches, malicious software or anything to get ahead.

-> Reseting a zone in POE is essential and available to everyone
-> Killing the vaal monsters in the event to get your crystal is available to everyone
-> This is exactly how the mechanic is intended to be played. You enter a zone kill them and progress. When you find the fastest way to do it and start doing it is not exploit that deserves ban. Its not even exploit in my opinion.

I hate this new terminology for game exploits where unintended use of a mechanic because considered exploit. Exploit should be the use of bugs, glitches, malicious software or similar to gain advantage and should be bannable. This is not. By putting stuff that are not bannable under the exploit criteria it makes cases like this.

You make it sound like you could just enter lvl63 Holten and reset/farm it.

- You couldn't do it solo with your lvl90 character. GGG put in level restrictions from day 1.
- To bypass the level restriction you had to join a party with a low level player who intentionally remained low level and just created the instance for the high level player.
- The low level player had to stand in one spot creating new instances every 30 seconds for 30 minutes for the high level player.

Sounds a lot more like an exploit now does it not?

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RandomWookiee#0673 เขียน:

Cheaters and exploiters needed to be banned otherwise there is no point playing this game or supporting this company anymore. But we need to go deeper than just what happened in this league and get those who do things like data mine the game to use logout macros.

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nathandark84#9725 เขียน:

If that was only the case - it was not.
Some done it that way - later on - For example Fubgun.
But its still a game mechanic, thats in the game, from the beginning of poe2
now it will be removed

To be clear. U do not need to invite low level players.
You just needed your own Character at lvl 60 or above. And set up the temple ur own. And from lvl 65+ u can loose exp, so u can kill of urself - over and over, and never level up. And still do it solo.
I testet it myself and stoped it, because i was near this level with my second Char.
I stopped it, because it was so dump and a waste of fun.
I used the 8 Room Setup i created and bunch of Punchingback rooms, and ran them to level up. U got 2 lvl worth of experience every round.
After that, i went to maps.
But its still no Exploit.

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SaiyanZ#3112 เขียน:

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nathandark84#9725 เขียน:

If that was only the case - it was not.
Some done it that way - later on - For example Fubgun.
But its still a game mechanic, thats in the game, from the beginning of poe2
now it will be removed

To be clear. U do not need to invite low level players.
You just needed your own Character at lvl 60 or above. And set up the temple ur own. And from lvl 65+ u can loose exp, so u can kill of urself - over and over, and never level up. And still do it solo.
I testet it myself and stoped it, because i was near this level with my second Char.
I stopped it, because it was so dump and a waste of fun.
I used the 8 Room Setup i created and bunch of Punchingback rooms, and ran them to level up. U got 2 lvl worth of experience every round.
After that, i went to maps.
But its still no Exploit.

No you couldn't build a temple solo without dying a billion times because you level up too fast. You'd outlevel Holten before you got like 10 rooms built in a chain.

I think there's literally not a single person that built a 60+ chain temple solo by dying. It would take forever because you'd have to die a couple times in every room and run back. So whilst theoretically possible, nobody did that.

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nathandark84#9725 เขียน:

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SaiyanZ#3112 เขียน:

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nathandark84#9725 เขียน:

If that was only the case - it was not.
Some done it that way - later on - For example Fubgun.
But its still a game mechanic, thats in the game, from the beginning of poe2
now it will be removed

To be clear. U do not need to invite low level players.
You just needed your own Character at lvl 60 or above. And set up the temple ur own. And from lvl 65+ u can loose exp, so u can kill of urself - over and over, and never level up. And still do it solo.
I testet it myself and stoped it, because i was near this level with my second Char.
I stopped it, because it was so dump and a waste of fun.
I used the 8 Room Setup i created and bunch of Punchingback rooms, and ran them to level up. U got 2 lvl worth of experience every round.
After that, i went to maps.
But its still no Exploit.

No you couldn't build a temple solo without dying a billion times because you level up too fast. You'd outlevel Holten before you got like 10 rooms built in a chain.

I think there's literally not a single person that built a 60+ chain temple solo by dying. It would take forever because you'd have to die a couple times in every room and run back. So whilst theoretically possible, nobody did that.

I Wrote, that it was possible.
After 15 Rooms, you are right. U had to die practically every 3rd Room, to no tLevel up. But it was possible and still faster than doing maps ( Mabye the tier1 Strat is faster than this )

I Know that other bring in low tier players. But what i want to say is. That was a unbalanced Ingame Feature, where GGG not think about it.

U could done it yourself or with others.

It was no exploit, it was just bad designed.

Should player done it that way and Stream it , so that everyone can do this and destroy the market.... No... That was against Therms of Use ( Dont destroy fun of other Players )
But no exploit