(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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50c investment is not enough for yellow maps.

Hmmm, that wasn't the experience I had using this as a league starter in 3.9 for the first time.

It's a bit "narrow" in the sense of having relatively few options that help with the build, but the guide is specific about what they are.

What kinds of items did you have? Can you link your build?

What issues were you having in yellow maps? Slow clear? Dying to random things? Bosses?

Maybe we can figure out why you had such a different experience.

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

Realy bad build. 50c investment is not enough for yellow maps. Missleading title. would downtvote if possible.

Seeing as how I get to red maps in a day every single league before trading for items is really an option, I think it does quite well. I checked your profile and it looks like you haven't even played this build, as your only TR character is a miner.

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typicaldemon เขียน:

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

Realy bad build. 50c investment is not enough for yellow maps. Missleading title. would downtvote if possible.

Seeing as how I get to red maps in a day every single league before trading for items is really an option, I think it does quite well. I checked your profile and it looks like you haven't even played this build, as your only TR character is a miner.

I tried this at mid league. I limited my budget to 50c it wasn't enough for it. other than that if 50c is deleted from title I would say ok. I m not a newbie I even have a guide "K0FT3's toxic rain miner". if missleading explanetions get deleted from this content I will apologize from creator.

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

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typicaldemon เขียน:

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

Realy bad build. 50c investment is not enough for yellow maps. Missleading title. would downtvote if possible.

Seeing as how I get to red maps in a day every single league before trading for items is really an option, I think it does quite well. I checked your profile and it looks like you haven't even played this build, as your only TR character is a miner.

I tried this at mid league. I limited my budget to 50c it wasn't enough for it. other than that if 50c is deleted from title I would say ok. I m not a newbie I even have a guide "K0FT3's toxic rain miner". if missleading explanetions get deleted from this content I will apologize from creator.

You tried this weeks ago and just now came back to comment on how bad it is? What gear did you buy for 50c that wasn't sufficient for yellow maps?

I didn't spend 50c on this until well past yellow maps. Most of the currency needed in this is in the bow, and I ran with a crap 10c bow for much longer than most. I used that bow to fill out my Atlas, only ran into problems on a very few bosses. Sirus killed me a couple times. Minotaur did as well. Baran once, Purifier once, a few of the metamorphs, especially the machine gun variant. Piety in the Shrine map with twinned bosses and high extra elemental damage.

Sure, by end of league, I was into this build for a couple hundred exalts... but I also finished the league after financing 3 other builds with 38ex left over, so... /me shrugs.

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grimjack68 เขียน:

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

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typicaldemon เขียน:

Seeing as how I get to red maps in a day every single league before trading for items is really an option, I think it does quite well. I checked your profile and it looks like you haven't even played this build, as your only TR character is a miner.

I tried this at mid league. I limited my budget to 50c it wasn't enough for it. other than that if 50c is deleted from title I would say ok. I m not a newbie I even have a guide "K0FT3's toxic rain miner". if missleading explanetions get deleted from this content I will apologize from creator.

You tried this weeks ago and just now came back to comment on how bad it is? What gear did you buy for 50c that wasn't sufficient for yellow maps?

I didn't spend 50c on this until well past yellow maps. Most of the currency needed in this is in the bow, and I ran with a crap 10c bow for much longer than most. I used that bow to fill out my Atlas, only ran into problems on a very few bosses. Sirus killed me a couple times. Minotaur did as well. Baran once, Purifier once, a few of the metamorphs, especially the machine gun variant. Piety in the Shrine map with twinned bosses and high extra elemental damage.

Sure, by end of league, I was into this build for a couple hundred exalts... but I also finished the league after financing 3 other builds with 38ex left over, so... /me shrugs.

OK BOOMER!

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QuantumTanri เขียน:

50c investment is not enough for yellow maps.

Prices are dependent on each league, current meta and how far we're into it. I remember when lvl 21 toxic rain cost 70c and times when it cost next to nothing. That alone will impact your budget, same thing how common are +2 bow gems bows with 5 or 6-link, in metamorph they were actually very common and cheap, might not be the case in delirium who knows.

Shame mines didn't get nerfed except pyroclasm, if we compare every build's dps to a miner, miners always win by accomplishing the same on a lower budget. It seems they'll remain strong league starter all things compared.

Hello, thanks for the build, I'm considering running it as my starter. What do you think about the elusive nerf and hoag nerf for leveling? Also do you think it will perform well with the new league mechanic? I'm a bit worried about the dots gimping the timer.

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tomfrost เขียน:

What do you think about the elusive nerf and hoag nerf for leveling?

The build functioned well before elusive was even created and added in Blight. Feel free to try the buffed dash instead of withering step and see which one works better, or just use smoke mine even though mines got 0.05 sec nerf to throwing speed so not sure if that will affect the "smoke mine as mobility skill" meta. Frostblink was also buffed but if I remember correctly it scales with cast speed so might feel clunky.

Hoag was always semi-worthless for this build during levelling, and completely worthless in end game so I wouldn't worry about that one at all.

I expect the "best build for delirium" is gonna be some headhunter-fuelled "clear 3 screens in 1 click" type of build BUT those builds are expensive as hell and not a good "league starter" so better start as something else, farm currency and then see how the meta develops.

Can we still fossil craft +3bow with the 3 fossil combo now? I dont get the fossil craft changes... everyone going loco, but u only need the right item now?

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Psycomantje เขียน:

Can we still fossil craft +3bow with the 3 fossil combo now? I dont get the fossil craft changes... everyone going loco, but u only need the right item now?

Fossil crafting changes TLDR:
- was it fossil exclusive mod?
- if YES (like helmet -9% chaos resistance aura) then you NEED a new influenced item to craft it on
- if NO nothing changes
- also if YES but it was FACETED FOSSIL exclusive (like +1 to dex / str gems suffix) you can still make it with faceted fossil but probably not some cheap replacements

Not sure if there were changes to probabilities of specific mods appearing. But they should also be obtainable with other methods like Hunter orb slam (again not sure the % chance).

They said they removed fossil-exclusive shield and glove mods, but no idea what they were tbh, wish they listed them. Probably doesn't affect this build, as it doesn't use shield and chaos multi glove mod is hunter / elder so it's still there.