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Your starter version is rather expensive, not a good league starter build. Even with getting things identical to your starter version on the PoB rather disappointed in the build, damage feels fine.
But clearing maps feels rather slow and getting swarmed by mobs in the 2 seconds it takes the totems to fire feels bad. Phasing does help from the passive tree which I opted for 20% over the 10% in your tree. I invested like 6 divs (2 Div bow DPS 1300 similar to bow in your tree except chaos dmg added over cold damage, 2 Div amulet, then 2 divs getting all the other uniques 5-L, ring etc...).
Gonna still try to get to the point where I get endurance charge generation that you have in your endgame build from the small cluster jewel, to extend the immortal call duration, but I really am thinking its not gonna make a huge difference. I even have a higher eHP and higher max hits than your starter version.
Yea the starter version isnt very tanky, it isnt rly meant to be, just to do enough damage to clear atlas, but this league with mercs its a bit more annoying. There arent rly many cheap PF defensive tools, but i might overhaul it at some point. For improving the clear, I am currently experimenting with this:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-poison-scourge-arrow-experimental
It uses the new coiling whisper, I was trying it on like 80c setup and it can clear t16s somewhat fine.
My builds:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
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โพสต์โดยthedeathbeam#7125เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 00:08:08
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Hi,
what do you think of a setup using coiling whisper getting permanent 45 soul eater stacks while Mapping?
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โพสต์โดยKn3chtRupr3cht#7452เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 02:03:49
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Hi,
what do you think of a setup using coiling whisper getting permanent 45 soul eater stacks while Mapping?
Check my post above with the experimental build version (and also my char), thats what im playing atm
My builds:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
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โพสต์โดยthedeathbeam#7125เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 03:04:22
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Sorry I did not look to deep into your privious post.
That sounds interesting. How does the attack speed from 45 soul eater stacks feel?
Also do you notice any differece using Wilmas Requitel or using a rare Helmet with the crazy amount of attack speed you get from 45 soul eater stacks?
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โพสต์โดยKn3chtRupr3cht#7452เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 04:19:11
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Sorry I did not look to deep into your privious post.
That sounds interesting. How does the attack speed from 45 soul eater stacks feel?
Also do you notice any differece using Wilmas Requitel or using a rare Helmet with the crazy amount of attack speed you get from 45 soul eater stacks?
about same as when using soul ascension which is part of the regular build already, but the ring is a bit more consistent (adn as downside i cant use temp chains anymore).
And replacing wilmas wouldnt rly make sense because soul eater gives both attack and cast speed, there is no other helmet that would come close
My builds:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
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โพสต์โดยthedeathbeam#7125เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 04:32:33
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Your starter version is rather expensive, not a good league starter build. Even with getting things identical to your starter version on the PoB rather disappointed in the build, damage feels fine.
But clearing maps feels rather slow and getting swarmed by mobs in the 2 seconds it takes the totems to fire feels bad. Phasing does help from the passive tree which I opted for 20% over the 10% in your tree. I invested like 6 divs (2 Div bow DPS 1300 similar to bow in your tree except chaos dmg added over cold damage, 2 Div amulet, then 2 divs getting all the other uniques 5-L, ring etc...).
Gonna still try to get to the point where I get endurance charge generation that you have in your endgame build from the small cluster jewel, to extend the immortal call duration, but I really am thinking its not gonna make a huge difference. I even have a higher eHP and higher max hits than your starter version.
Yea the starter version isnt very tanky, it isnt rly meant to be, just to do enough damage to clear atlas, but this league with mercs its a bit more annoying. There arent rly many cheap PF defensive tools, but i might overhaul it at some point. For improving the clear, I am currently experimenting with this:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam%237125/pf-poison-scourge-arrow-experimental
It uses the new coiling whisper, I was trying it on like 80c setup and it can clear t16s somewhat fine.
Do we need pierce on this build? i didn't know that before
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โพสต์โดยDassort#2407เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 06:58:56
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Do we need pierce on this build? i didn't know that before
No, the pierce in the experimental setup is purely to make Frenzy pierce to curse more mobs at once when clearing to get to max stacks faster, SA already has infinite pierce by default
EDIT: But i swapped to roa for proccing the curse so no need for pierce there anymore iether
My builds:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/ แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย thedeathbeam#7125 เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2025 01:52:36
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โพสต์โดยthedeathbeam#7125เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2025 07:59:37
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Hey, i'm looking but what spectre do you use?
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โพสต์โดยWarjack1989#4332เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2025 07:05:51
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Hey, i'm looking but what spectre do you use?
Dark Marionettes as they respawn in case they die ( which in the endgame setup happens rarely but midgame a lot depending on how much flask regen you have stacked)
also i feel there is no difference between normal and perfect dark marionettes so don't overpay
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โพสต์โดยmatiware#4183เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2025 07:44:57
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Sorry I did not look to deep into your privious post.
That sounds interesting. How does the attack speed from 45 soul eater stacks feel?
Also do you notice any differece using Wilmas Requitel or using a rare Helmet with the crazy amount of attack speed you get from 45 soul eater stacks?
about same as when using soul ascension which is part of the regular build already, but the ring is a bit more consistent (adn as downside i cant use temp chains anymore).
And replacing wilmas wouldnt rly make sense because soul eater gives both attack and cast speed, there is no other helmet that would come close
I didn't count max curse limit but couldn't we just get temporal chains via double corrupt on gloves and then just get +1 curse limit from the tree via anethema? or I'm missing something (bad at visualising xd)
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โพสต์โดยmatiware#4183เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2025 07:46:06
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