[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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Darkxellmc เขียน:

Also, no, I wouldn't use touch of cruelty. But we can get a large cluster jewel with touch of cruelty, another good notable and jewel socket(s), with good small passives stats (the +5% chaos multi "enchant" is really REALLY good).

I was really bummed to see that reveal with juicy +5% chaos multi small nodes only to be followed by poison-only notable. I wonder do these always go together i.e. specific notable is always tied to specific small nodes preceding it, or is there a variance? Wish they would explain the system better. So far it seems the notable always has somewhat related small nodes, so it's not "random", each wheel follows a specific theme.

I also wonder if these wheels can differ in size with the same notable, because good notable for 5 point investment might not be so good anymore if it requires 8 point investment (different size of wheel).

So I had some currency lying around and converted into an ES build (just to see the difference) and it’s so rippy and a lot slower than this version, definitely not worth the damage.

I have however experimented a bit and am running zealotry instead of discipline (taking the reserved mana nodes under the green dream jewel socket on tree) and it was a pretty significant dps gain. Sitting at about 1.65 mil pob damage (not including full wither stacks).

I think it’s a pretty viable alternative to run zealotry instead of discipline since MoM only redirects 30% of damage to our ES pool (so 10:3 ratio of life to es) I had 5k life/2.5k es and now sitting at 5k/2.1k with zealotry and haven’t noticed a difference in terms of damage throughput but hit a lot harder it feels. Just something to keep in mind; however you will need a lvl 4 enlighten to run this setup (or a vertex/devouring diadem).

Also tranquility is the biggest dps gain from anointments for those who don’t need the soul of steel defensives (or just like a bit more of a challenge) and prodigal perfection is a worthy node to grab as a cheaper anointment or on tree for damage as well

Hey guys, really like the playstyle of this build and I've heard great things as a league starter and would love to do it next league. Issue is I'm just now in act 5 and feel incredibly squishy(squishier than any build I've ever leveled. And the damage is very low. I know for a fact its not a fault of the build, so I was hoping someone would be able to check my profile and give me a few tips maybe. Would really appreciate some guidance as i'd love to league start with this. Thanks!

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So I had some currency lying around and converted into an ES build (just to see the difference) and it’s so rippy and a lot slower than this version, definitely not worth the damage.

How much ES you had as ES build compared to life? Also was it CI or low life version? Kinda wanted to know what do we compare with what. I'd expect ES builds having around 30-40% more "hit points" than life builds (5-6k life vs 8-10k es), and ofc you can't pick acrobatics on a full ES build.

I was cheking mbxtreme version of ED trickster but it was with a shield, so probably much less damage due to not using a bow.

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aowamplfiy เขียน:

Hey guys, really like the playstyle of this build and I've heard great things as a league starter and would love to do it next league.

Maybe it will help you to check Zizaran's video where he literally makes a fresh ed trickster and explains "how to level at league start". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZdW1S38no

If I wanted to play Bane (I like the skill :)), which gems would I put in? Thanks!

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Viktranka เขียน:

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So I had some currency lying around and converted into an ES build (just to see the difference) and it’s so rippy and a lot slower than this version, definitely not worth the damage.

How much ES you had as ES build compared to life? Also was it CI or low life version? Kinda wanted to know what do we compare with what. I'd expect ES builds having around 30-40% more "hit points" than life builds (5-6k life vs 8-10k es), and ofc you can't pick acrobatics on a full ES build.

I was cheking mbxtreme version of ED trickster but it was with a shield, so probably much less damage due to not using a bow.

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aowamplfiy เขียน:

Hey guys, really like the playstyle of this build and I've heard great things as a league starter and would love to do it next league.

Maybe it will help you to check Zizaran's video where he literally makes a fresh ed trickster and explains "how to level at league start". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZdW1S38no

I had around 8.5k ES and was playing LL not CI (but you need clarity watchers eye to really hit 9k+ ES) and 2.5-6 mil ED. Damage was great but it felt more clunky and unlike this build if you dash into or near a pack with speed you were pretty much dead. I personally didn’t care for the ES variant, especially since I’ve found some tweaks to boost this builds damage even higher. Not going back to ES personally

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I had around 8.5k ES and was playing LL not CI (but you need clarity watchers eye to really hit 9k+ ES) and 2.5-6 mil ED. Damage was great but it felt more clunky and unlike this build if you dash into or near a pack with speed you were pretty much dead. I personally didn’t care for the ES variant, especially since I’ve found some tweaks to boost this builds damage even higher. Not going back to ES personally

So what kind of tweaks did you do for the damage then?

Also I feel like ES will be harder to itemize for because you'd want crusader rings with %ES and then you'd want to craft faster start of ES recharge so if you want Endurance Charge then you're forced to multimod it so you'd have very little room for resistances or anything on a ring.

And I imagine "charging into a pack and dying" would be due to lower evasion and much lower dodge that the life based build?

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Viktranka เขียน:

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I had around 8.5k ES and was playing LL not CI (but you need clarity watchers eye to really hit 9k+ ES) and 2.5-6 mil ED. Damage was great but it felt more clunky and unlike this build if you dash into or near a pack with speed you were pretty much dead. I personally didn’t care for the ES variant, especially since I’ve found some tweaks to boost this builds damage even higher. Not going back to ES personally

So what kind of tweaks did you do for the damage then?

Also I feel like ES will be harder to itemize for because you'd want crusader rings with %ES and then you'd want to craft faster start of ES recharge so if you want Endurance Charge then you're forced to multimod it so you'd have very little room for resistances or anything on a ring.

And I imagine "charging into a pack and dying" would be due to lower evasion and much lower dodge that the life based build?

Exactly. I used two crusader rings with max Es/flat Es and the whole nine yards but ultimately it packs a punch but if you get bad mods, or server lag, or any randomness it isn’t as forgiving.

For this build I run zealotry instead of discipline, crafted a rare chest with essence for 10% dodge, used a hunter orb on my helm so I can shock with ED now, and run some slightly different passives to accommodate it. Essentially adding zealotry and shock (RnG exalt slam though) is a huge single target boost. Itemization wise running spell dmg/chaos mult gloves, chaos dmg jewels, chaos dmg belt and I’m crafting a spell dmg during flask effect and running a offensive anointment have made bossing easy. Really no issues at all with my current iteration but could use better rings

I will say at best if you can’t afford a bottled faith (run regular sulfur flask instead) and a lot of the things I’ve made you could still sit at around 1 mil ED on around 20 ex but it does scale well with added investment. No clue where my current value is but it’s probably in the 50ex+ range at this point

To be fair if you're running zealotry over discipline, you should probably swap to a DoT quiver instead. It's less of an ES loss than discipline, and brings about the same damage.

(18 + 25 = 43% damage multiplier), and a life slam is pretty much garenteed if you block attack mods.

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Darkxellmc เขียน:

To be fair if you're running zealotry over discipline, you should probably swap to a DoT quiver instead. It's less of an ES loss than discipline, and brings about the same damage.

(18 + 25 = 43% damage multiplier), and a life slam is pretty much garenteed if you block attack mods.

That is my next step, I have an awakener’s I’m sitting on for the craft just been lazy recently. Also if I can find a watcher’s with arcane surge/inc dmg for consecration proc during zealotry, with a dot quiver I should be over 2 mil dps.

Only reason I haven’t dropped the quiver is I was concerned about ES recharge rate (I’m still pretty new to ES, always played life builds) but I’ll do some testing eventually.

Still, of all the builds I’ve played this one is just such a smooth mapper and bosser. Most well-rounded I’ve played yet, and nothing really compares to chaining screens of monsters with ed/contagion