3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Elorathiel เขียน:

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crazypearce เขียน:

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papagoja1 เขียน:

Thanks. Missed that on FAQ. Will dubbelcheck that tomorrow.
Also made you able to check my char.
Im not rich but have 9ex and 700c to invest. Maybe more if other gear sells

curse on hit gloves, so you can replace the aura in your chest. better rings, neither of them have life/ES and one is strengthless. can try your hand at crafting an influenced amulet with %str and %attributes. helm enchant, awkened melee phys, lvl 21 AG, a watcher's eye. lots of different things you can do so take your pick

Not trying to tear down your solid advice as I've only recently come to this change through knowledge provided in this thread, but personally I think curse on hit gloves are a bad investment. Not only is the Merveil Retainer curse better in every way, it also tends to hit much more mobs. I sold off my curse on hit gloves and now use a much cheaper +2 auras. I also added a Hellion spectre because the buff is nice. I'm finding that just a single Carnage Chieftain and Host Chieftain seem to be enough to keep up the frenzy/power charges. I feel this combination of spectres is better but I have no mathematics to support this assertion, just a personal anecdote and based on how it feels.

I guess it comes down to consistency of it.

I haven't tested it extensively but when I did it seemed to work well, but so do gloves.

I am indifferent as to what is better.

Even running both would work, particularly if you have a playstyle like mine where your aim is to simply run through packs as much as possible without cycloning.

It would also depend on where you have auras. If you're putting auras in gloves then you get a little boost, but if you're going full chest aura mode then there is not a need for aura gloves.

Personal taste really. Either way everything melts just as fast :D

What would you guys say sets this build apart from say, SLOW-MO ZOMBIES? Not looking for a trash-talking comparison, but rather honest strengths/weaknesses. From what I can tell, both offer a possible mouse-only play style which is a big selling point for me.

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DeciTM เขียน:

What would you guys say sets this build apart from say, SLOW-MO ZOMBIES? Not looking for a trash-talking comparison, but rather honest strengths/weaknesses. From what I can tell, both offer a possible mouse-only play style which is a big selling point for me.

whats the point of slowing anything that dies in 1sec?

yea u can run with that stuff, but i guess it will work only for blight maps..? wait, it will not work even there. because everything dies there too.

that build is pointless because:
1. if he needs to slow packs, then he has no dps.
2. if he has no dps - he will kill a8 sirus for hours.
3. gl with clearing legion encounters. u will not tag even half of legion.
4. it will be bad even at delving, because if u gonna refer to how deep delve works, u dont need a lot of survivability there. u need a lot of dps, a lot of movespeed and dodge/block at high.

honestly, a gear section make me laugh.. ANYTHING U WANT.

but uh, okay, when i got to point: i use 4x life flask with bleed remove each, i just closed that guide, because that guy has absolutely no clue how to play this game. he is not even using quicksilver, it makes pretty clear that each map takes about 20mins to be done. im getting pissed off when i spent on map more than 5min, why i should run a map for 20min but needlessly slowing mobs, when i can idk zoom it for 3min at max speed and start next one to get even more loot and exalts?

he is pretty bad, he is not even has a tab of ascendancy. even if he has, any minion build should take a node with bone armour which is intergral build immune every 4s with 1k absorb damage. having ANY source of bleed immune with that skill is just waste. i did all league without corrupted blood jewel (i guess he has no idea that those exists) and never died to bleeding, only to meta 1shots.

sorry i maybe sound a bit aggresive, but this guide is srsly bad one.

also his natural survivability is lower, because he has no investment to strength, which cuts his HP.

ive watched for 30s his video gameplay.. man.. fuuck.. he is even summoning skeletons to kill packs.. fuck.. dont play it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKxRWk8msEY&feature=youtu.be checkout how necro must be played properly.

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xthbx เขียน:

thank you. Took me 400 chances :-)

I hate you right now, I'm at 3500+ and counting on this I'm working on one. It's being sooo stubborn. But I don't want to corrupt the one off my back. Probably on par with buying trash to treasure at this point.

*edit* end count, about 4100, def woulda been cheaper to trash to treasure but how could I have known it would suck this hard.

*2nd edit* just made another in about 1400-1500, thats more realistic.

Do I use vaal haste only or both of them (haste and vall haste)?

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Elorathiel เขียน:

I feel this combination of spectres is better but I have no mathematics to support this assertion, just a personal anecdote and based on how it feels.

Iam with u.

Host Chieftain
Carnage Chieftain
Merveils Retainer
Ruins Helions

For me it is alos the best spectre combi, with no math behind it.

how do you have enough mana for all auras on tanky setup ?
I'm new to the game :)

Only Vaal Haste on bosses or metamorphs.

So u can save a lot of mana.

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hellbeaver เขียน:

how do you have enough mana for all auras on tanky setup ?
I'm new to the game :)

Your profile is privat.

But u can use a high level enlighten and u have to pick the nodes with "-x mana reservation"

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kekikcilerakin เขียน:

Do I use vaal haste only or both of them (haste and vall haste)?

Use EITHER hatred or haste... And then pip Vaal haste on bosses.

As of the last few days I've dropped hatred and now running haste. Overall feels better with the movement speed on minions and it also frees a gem slot.

I could add in Precision to effectively run 9 Auras :)

I'm looking forward to sharing some new vids with you guys come 3.10. I'm holding off for now in case there are any major changes come patch notes.