10% exp loss on lvl 95 is 25mln exp

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Toforto#2372 เขียน:

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

Dont really see what the comparison to poe1 maps or trials has to do with anything.
My point remains, there is no content which requires you to hit 100.
Exp loss on death is a good mechanic to discourage glass cannon builds with no defense and to reward you for playing for a long while with few deaths.

I dont really see any good argument for removing it. Your only argument is that it annoys you, if your not having fun then maybe this isnt the game for you. There are plenty of players who enjoy the difficulty.

Removing it would just discourage good players and encourage a playstyle similar to corpse rushing bosses or smashing your head on the keyboard and eventually hitting lvl 100 despite having 20k deaths, instead of actually being incentivised to improving

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but this game's meta is already fast glass-cannon builds. There are builds that flood the screen with projectiles and explode everything, there are builds that zoom around maps and kill everything, and there are builds that quite literally one-shot bosses in a single hit. And people are gravitating towards those builds, because that's what is fun to them. And because the best way to avoid dying is to kill the enemies first, because the on-death effects and damage from enemies is so overtuned you'll get deleted unless you have 20k es.

And your argument of "if you don't like the game go play something else" is so nonsensical. That's all the people that defend the bad design of the game ever say. All you're doing is trying to chase players away and being a weird gatekeeper.

You assume that punishing game design will somehow magically just make every human on the planet think to """improve""" somehow, even though most of the deaths in this game are unfair oneshots or stuff you can't see at all. No, people will and are just quitting. Because they don't like their time,effort and progress being wasted and deleted. It's the most anti-fun design ever.

Your perfect "darksouls arpg" does not exist, will never exist. Because there aren't enough people out there that enjoy being punished every 2 seconds in a videogame. And GGG definitely won't be making enough money to sustain this live-service game off a playerbase about the size of Ruthless player numbers.

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

remove essential things like exp loss on death

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AintCare#6513 เขียน:

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Akedomo#3573 เขียน:

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Waiden#9514 เขียน:

This is not Diablo 3 or 4.

In POE, level 100 is not the goal.

Why not?

I enjoy hitting max level in games. Especially PoE, with a full build. It's quite enjoyable.

What I don't like, is losing hours of progress to random deaths!

Lets fix it, make the game more fun.

GGG stated it shouldn't be your goal. obviously you can make it your goal. back in a day there was a guy that hit 100 on docks in poe1, one death at lvl99 was 2 weeks of running docks. don't remember how long it took him total.

on a side note, im very happy with how things are in poe2, in poe1 right now you can hit 95 and not even realize it.

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Akedomo#3573 เขียน:

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

remove essential things like exp loss on death

What about it, is essential? Essential to what?

Seems to me most players dont like it. Very few enjoy it. Not seeing the value here.

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Akedomo#3573 เขียน:

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

remove essential things like exp loss on death

What about it, is essential? Essential to what?

Seems to me most players dont like it. Very few enjoy it. Not seeing the value here.

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Toforto#2372 เขียน:

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Akedomo#3573 เขียน:

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

remove essential things like exp loss on death

What about it, is essential? Essential to what?

Seems to me most players dont like it. Very few enjoy it. Not seeing the value here.

People that defend these senselessly cruel on-death punishment mechanics just get some weird ego boost every time they do it. And their only excuse for these mechanics is "oh to discourage you from playing in a certain way". How is this a good thing exactly? Trying to tell players how to play a game will never go well lol, and this guy defending exp penalty conveniently ignored the fact that the meta right now is quite literally glass cannons, the penalty for dying is enforcing and encouraging the exact builds he doesn't want in the game. It's hilarious.

Probably like 95% of the people defending all these bad game design decisions are still in campaign, and have no clue just how much it's gonna suck for them when or if they ever get to maps.

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If you can fail and fail and fail and fail and still progress in the game then most people will stop to find the game entertaining. The games that are well made are games that force you to get better at it to progress so you get the feeling of accomplishment. All good games have a mechanic similar to this and all those games always have some crybabies who want it to remove because they dont want to be forced to improve. Even tho even they themselves would find the game boring if it wasnt there, they just dont understand gsme mechanics enough to realise

Its always been the same, even in poe1. A bunch of people whining and wanting it removed and ggg correctly (because they know what a good game needs) refusing to remove it

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Nyon#6673 เขียน:

If you can fail and fail and fail and fail and still progress in the game then most people will stop to find the game entertaining. The games that are well made are games that force you to get better at it to progress so you get the feeling of accomplishment. All good games have a mechanic similar to this and all those games always have some crybabies who want it to remove because they dont want to be forced to improve. Even tho even they themselves would find the game boring if it wasnt there, they just dont understand gsme mechanics enough to realise

Its always been the same, even in poe1. A bunch of people whining and wanting it removed and ggg correctly (because they know what a good game needs) refusing to remove it