I finally tried minions.. how on earth is this balanced??

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Innuendos#5095 เขียน:
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teobibu#1278 เขียน:
Guys slow down....




Seriously now the problem with minions lies to the number of minions. Devs shouldn't allow so many minions by one character but instead 5max. These Minions should have 5x more damage and defences and also character that control minions should be buffed 2x.

Imagine to make party with 2 characters that control 12 minions each. The gameplay would be awful. I see all time in creation of a party, people write: Minions not allowed. I understand these people couse with ton of minions in map you can't actually do anything right, you cant move, you cant see, you cant recognize objects, it's a hell....


your first sentence in this quote screams 'ive never played minions before'

you want to put your theory to the test?

go reroll. play lich. use skele warriors and skele archer like we had to do. SPOILER ALERT... you wont have 5 minions until like... level 20-30 somewhere in there. so once you have 5. dont add more.

i will even let you put 2/3 lv 2 or 3 support gems in them to simulate your 'more dmg'. cuz we wouldnt have those gems to put into them on a fresh character. but you can to simulate your theory.

tell us how long it takes you to complete the campaign. ive done it twice this patch. and one char i deleted at lv 40 out of pure frustration that i had 4 gems on my archers. so really 2.5 times.

so i know the anwser without the gems and with them. to all of this. your whole post. and you aint gunna like it. and guess what. neither did ANY minion player.

and in 10+ years of poe. ive never been not let in a party, or kicked out of a party, due to minions.

if anything, people like playing with minion players. why? cuz they can afk. or they like the awareness its brings, with a bunch of insert spell/skill effect here flying to the next pack. or the minions melee body blocking packs so they can spam. or because the minions can still dps the boss, while they are dodge rolling x4 to get into position to dps.

im sorry. but your post is completely wrong. and uninformed.

have a good day.




Indeed I didn't played char with minions in Poe2. It was a decision after ton of games a played in past with minion char. I said lets try something else. Lets try Crossbow this time. And guess what i dissaponted as hell from the beginning. Becouse all the other weapon styles had broken builds but Crossbow neh it was disaster. But i continued playing until reached level 96 after 6 months play. Other players reaching 4 characters in 1 month to level 93-95.


So to the point now. If Devs boost your Character that support minions, to at least 2x or even better then you will do the kills in parallel of your Minions attack. Now if they buff 5x times Minions power then you dont need 15 minions to mess it all around. And yes people are saying true words. With 50 minions in screen it's not an game it's a funeral bro...

Good day to you....
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teobibu#1278 เขียน:


Indeed I didn't played char with minions in Poe2. It was a decision after ton of games a played in past with minion char. I said lets try something else. Lets try Crossbow this time. And guess what i dissaponted as hell from the beginning. Becouse all the other weapon styles had broken builds but Crossbow neh it was disaster. But i continued playing until reached level 96 after 6 months play. Other players reaching 4 characters in 1 month to level 93-95.


So to the point now. If Devs boost your Character that support minions, to at least 2x or even better then you will do the kills in parallel of your Minions attack. Now if they buff 5x times Minions power then you dont need 15 minions to mess it all around. And yes people are saying true words. With 50 minions in screen it's not an game it's a funeral bro...

Good day to you....


since the mods are out in force today to make sure your feelings aren't hurt. ill say this. nice and easy.

you just admitted you have no idea what you are talking about, admitting you have never played minions, in a minion thread, and put out solutions to a problem, you dont even know about or experienced.

dont have a nice day.
I am playing a several hundred divine storm mage build that can easily beat t4 sims, but i still support all the points OP made.

passive tree and item diversity is so poor that a +3 storm mage prism of faith cost 300divs(thats the price last month, it’s 500 now 😅) is a pain in the ass, even lightning spear don’t cost that much

the +level to minions mods are too mandatory, completely destroying build diversity, this make any good(+4 and >170 spirit) scepter cost 100divs

at the same time lightning spear users are having 3 times your clearing speed and 0.01time your budget
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย sanarchism#6037 เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2025 00:04:26
It's all about +skills. Nothing else matters. It's the only way to effectively scale damage at the end of the game.

I had a hardcore Witch I took to level 96 which could mostly do T3 bosses/pinnacle content, though it began lagging at around T3, which is when I ultimately got cheap-shot by Candlemas of all bosses. 14k life pool gone in a blink...

Oh well, the season was done and I had mostly maxed what I could do with a self found character anyway. Maybe I'll come back when the game is actually released. Not with a minion build, though. Not enough high end damage unless you really max it out.
I tried to play minions a while back and it just felt bad. So I quit.
Minions are one of the least underpowered builds. Limited by spirit, always stuck in halls or small maps, only like the first 4 minions attack up front. You need big open map. They need to improve minion ai and buff their damage.
+1

I love Minion builds the most as an archetype.

I tried 4 different classes and builds this league
Minions are BY FAR the weakest and the most unpolished of those.

I wouldn't actually mind to have a slower gameplay, to wait for them to squeeze through doors and to kill a rare mob in 30sec rather than 2-shot like any other build.

The problem is game mechanics are not designed for slow play. Breach? Azmeri Spirits? Ritual? .. You either wipe the screen clear in a second or you are fucked. Minions feel bad right now.

Spectres (the BIG interesting factor of a summoner) are fucked as hell too.
The two people doing balance supervision hate minions obviously.
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sanarchism#6037 เขียน:
I am playing a several hundred divine storm mage build that can easily beat t4 sims


In standard league or dawn of the hunt?

My Lich Witch standard char can also clear T4 sims but I have access to legacy powerful gear. I'm just wondering if you have done it in Dawn of the hunt trade league, because I haven't tried that there, I only played HC or SSF since DOTH released. We lost so many stuff, if you really are clearing T4 sims in DOTH, I'd love to see your build.
I honestly don't understand anyone who's playing HC regardless of build. The game is simply not fit for that. Way too many random deaths.
I truly hope they do rebuff and further buff the minions pre .02 DOTH. Only then will I want to revisit this build.

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