New tier of currency items is an awful idea imo and thats why

Currency tiers are garbage.
Tiers for affixes are also overcomplicated and outdated crap and should be removed from game.

I say it again. Minimum rolled tier stat on an item should be based on itemlevel and not on tier of currencies. Tiered orbs increases the number of orbs again and people in endgame will try to not use lower tier orbs anymore, making them very likely worthless. Basing it on itemlevel however makes more sense. So having an itemlevel 80 piece will always result in at least a tier 6 life roll, up to tier 13, entirely skipping tier 1-5 always. That's how it should be and it would make crafting viable.

GGG care only about addicted/fanatic players. Casual players are for them nobodies.

I like the idea of the new currency addition

This could be solved by:

1. Allowing players to reforge those currencies.

2. Making it so from T13 maps and on the drops are always high tiers of exalts, augmentation, etc. If I see a lesser exalt in a T15 map I will be mad angry.

I agree with the post. With the current state of the game the chat is always full of people asking questions about things that the game simply doesn't explain at all. Adding more currencies instead of buffing the current ones is a weird move that seems more a rushed decision.

PS: I like the new essences, tho. I think we need more control over crafting. Actually, we didn't have crafting at all before this.

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 เขียน:

This could be solved by:

1. Allowing players to reforge those currencies.

Jonathan said, in his last interview with Talkative Tri I guess, that you cant for example, merge 3 greater exalted orbs to get a perfect one.

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 เขียน:

2. Making it so from T13 maps and on the drops are always high tiers of exalts, augmentation, etc. If I see a lesser exalt in a T15 map I will be mad angry.

And he said in 2 different interviews, once that perfect exalted is a little rare than divines right now, and in the 2nd one, that its a little easier to find than divines...
So for me it means that greater or perfect exalted orbs wont replace, a normal exalted from loot chance. Chance will just get higher and higher when you reach T16 map, but we would still have just a few perfect exalted to craft with after playing 100h+. So, it would be totally useless to craft imo (specially because if you get a T1 affix with thorns dmg, its still a useless affix) and it would be mostly use to buy and sell stuff.

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 เขียน:

PS: I like the new essences, tho. I think we need more control over crafting. Actually, we didn't have crafting at all before this.

I agree, new essences is a good addition cause its deterministic and it doesnt add 12 new currencies from the drop pool. Knowing what you would craft would push players to do it, even when in early/mid game.

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AceNightfire#0980 เขียน:

I say it again. Minimum rolled tier stat on an item should be based on itemlevel and not on tier of currencies. Tiered orbs increases the number of orbs again and people in endgame will try to not use lower tier orbs anymore, making them very likely worthless. Basing it on itemlevel however makes more sense. So having an itemlevel 80 piece will always result in at least a tier 6 life roll, up to tier 13, entirely skipping tier 1-5 always. That's how it should be and it would make crafting viable.

I agree. I still dont understand why, the best ilvl you get, the more chance you have to craft good affixes on it with normal tier orbs. Its simple, let drops of normal items still be useful, and you dont have to add new orbs or to add more chance to loot orbs.

edit : I think its already the case to have higher chance to craft a high tier of affix with a high tier of item, but it doesnt prevent to craft a low tier affix and thats the problem imo. As Ace Night fire said, a ilvl 80 should always craft an high tier affix (T1-T6 for a range of T1-T12 affix for ex). Cause it doesnt prevent you to craft a bad/useless affix, and a T6 affix from a T1-T12 range affix is still a bad one in end game.

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Legoury#0138 เขียน:

edit : I think its already the case to have higher chance to craft a high tier of affix with a high tier of item, but it doesnt prevent to craft a low tier affix and thats the problem imo. As Ace Night fire said, a ilvl 80 should always craft an high tier affix (T1-T6 for a range of T1-T12 affix for ex). Cause it doesnt prevent you to craft a bad/useless affix, and a T6 affix from a T1-T12 range affix is still a bad one in end game.

Becareful. In PoE2, higher tier means better. :)

So what you actually meant: an ilvl 80 should always craft T7-T12 when the item has a range of T1-T12.

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AceNightfire#0980 เขียน:

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Legoury#0138 เขียน:

edit : I think its already the case to have higher chance to craft a high tier of affix with a high tier of item, but it doesnt prevent to craft a low tier affix and thats the problem imo. As Ace Night fire said, a ilvl 80 should always craft an high tier affix (T1-T6 for a range of T1-T12 affix for ex). Cause it doesnt prevent you to craft a bad/useless affix, and a T6 affix from a T1-T12 range affix is still a bad one in end game.

Becareful. In PoE2, higher tier means better. :)

So what you actually meant: an ilvl 80 should always craft T7-T12 when the item has a range of T1-T12.

No no Im right, They invert it in a patch 0.2.1 :
"Item modifier tier numbering has been reversed so that smaller numbers represent stronger modifiers, with 1 being the best available modifier of that type."

The tiered currencies are a crafting solution, and I'm interested in trying them out. But I am sceptical for their long-term viability, because they will make the lesser tier crafting currencies obsolete again and again in each league. I've had the same issue with Jewellers orbs, where the lesser one quickly became obsolete.

I just don't know why GGG did not just use Omens instead:

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AceNightfire#0980 เขียน:

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Legoury#0138 เขียน:

edit : I think its already the case to have higher chance to craft a high tier of affix with a high tier of item, but it doesnt prevent to craft a low tier affix and thats the problem imo. As Ace Night fire said, a ilvl 80 should always craft an high tier affix (T1-T6 for a range of T1-T12 affix for ex). Cause it doesnt prevent you to craft a bad/useless affix, and a T6 affix from a T1-T12 range affix is still a bad one in end game.

Becareful. In PoE2, higher tier means better. :)

So what you actually meant: an ilvl 80 should always craft T7-T12 when the item has a range of T1-T12.

Tiers were changed back to match poe 1