3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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ChromatikRED เขียน:

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BRUNOWA TAKE MY ENERGY
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Thanks! I felt it... I really did!

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Linus1985 เขียน:

If still gonna go with barron, I doubt we will go all in and get the 2.5k+ strenght but rather save points into clusters and pretty much double the amount of minion damage we can pick up from the tree. Get the 1k strenght for the leech. Instead more points gets spent into clusters for more minion damage and defensives.

With the nerf to bone armour and mistress, that makes commander of darkness and essence glutton and plaguebringer look more interesting pickups.

CoD and EG combined with flesh offering could be very interesting...

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Mentoya เขียน:

I'm sure the baron is going to be scrapped. Much better to just focus on damage clusters/life and get a powerful helmet replacement to compensate.

I had a hard time getting all the strength, so I didn't even use barons and my zombies/specters did just fine...

So yea, I'm sure Baron is out of here once the build-guide is updated....

think so? If you go full CI won’t the life leach from the baron be really valuable (because of zealot’s oath). Combined with essence of gluttony that is starting to sound pretty tanky.

EDIT: Nevermind, ZO doesn't tranfer life leech to energy shield, only regen.

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brunowa เขียน:

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ChromatikRED เขียน:

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BRUNOWA TAKE MY ENERGY
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Thanks! I felt it... I really did!

You can take all of our energy. You got this!
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I play on standard and don't plan on playing the league, but this will most likely be the build I'll go with as much as I can. I was playing a skelly necro before and my AG just died 3 days ago, haven't touched the game since.
I hope 3.10 will be fun for you peeps in the new league, I'm excited about the Metamorph content in core! :)

I started poe on 3.8 and i love minions in everygame i play, i used this build for 3.8 and 3.9, if theres no come back from all those nerfs i have no idea what build to play...

RIP my beautiful 3.9 Necro!

This was the best build I have ever played and had so much fun in the league :D

I was expecting a nasty nerfbat™ but pretty much everything in the build has been hit hard (all except the armour options).

I never used Cyclone / Spirit offering with my build so won't miss it :)

For me the most damaging nerf is to Shaper's Touch.

I have used these gloves in so many builds over the years which are all now much weaker due to the changes :'(

It will be difficult reading for sure once the numbers have been run...

*consoling hugs for my fellow Exiles*

Brunowa nerfed...

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brunowa เขียน:

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ChromatikRED เขียน:

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Thanks! I felt it... I really did!

Tell me that this hammer has a solution

Hey Guys!

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with the Patch Notes.

I mean, we were still pretty OP compared to every other build in the game so it makes sense to punch us in the balls where it hurts.

But you know what? We have balls of steel. So we ain't going nowhere.

There are basically 3 things that builds try to achieve in POE:

1) DPS
2) Tankiness
3) Speed

ALL other builds in the game fall short on one of those metrics.

We have been the only build in the history of the game to be at the top level of all 3 of those metrics.

So it makes sense to hit us on one of them.

We mostly got hit in the Tankiness department with a couple hits.

Nerfs:

1) Shaper's Touch Nerf.
Shaper's Touch now grants +1 maximum mana per 4 Strength (from 2 maximum mana per 4 Strength), and 1% increased Energy Shield per 10 Strength (from 2% increased Energy Shield per 10 Strength). You can use a Divine Orb on existing versions if you feel it is unethical to have that much Mana and Energy Shield (because it is).

As Bex said what we had was pretty unethical ;)

This just means we will have less ES than before. Shaper's will still be best in slot I believe.

This can also be partly offset by simply running Discipline if you want to be more tanky.

Bone Barrier ascendancy.
Bone Barrier no longer grants Elemental Resistances per minion. Increased Life and Energy Shield Recovery per minion is now 2% (from 3%), capping out at 20% (from 30%).
Commander of Darkness now grants you and nearby allies +30% to all Elemental Resistances (from 20%).

No longer get elemental resistances. So depending on your ability to cap elemental resistances you can either go Bone Barrier or Commander of Darkness. This should pose no issues.


Spirit Offering
No longer grants a portion of the minion's maximum life as Energy Shield.
Now grants +20% to Chaos Resistance at gem level 1, up to +30% at gem level 20.

This is probably the biggest nerf to us considering we use Mistress of Sacrifice for the ES gain. All in all, we're just going to have to get used to playing without it.

The +30% Chaos resistance is AWESOME though making capping chaos res easier.


Zombies Nerf
The number of maximum raised zombies you can have at gem level 20 is now 6 (from 7).

I'm not sure exactly how it affects zombies at higher levels (eg level 30 we were targetiing previously... but I am assuming we now need a level higher?)


Skeletons Nerf
Damage dealt by minions at all gem levels has been lowered by approximately 40%. This change isn't visible on the gem as it is a property of the minion itself, and does not affect Skeleton Mages or any other non-basic Skeleton minions summoned by Vaal Summon Skeletons.
The number of maximum summoned skeletons you can have at gem level 20 is now 7 (from 8).

This will hurt us mostly during leveling as we don't use Skellies in end-game (unless you want to).


Feeding Frenzy
Now gives minions from supported skills 25% chance to grant Feeding Frenzy to you on hit at gem level 1, up to 44% at gem level 20 (previously 25% at all gem levels).
No longer causes minions from supported skills to deal more damage while you have Feeding Frenzy.

No issues here. Just link FF with a golem and we're good. I have been running this setup for the past few weeks and I actually prefer it. Just use Minion Damage (more DPS) or Minion Speed (more speed) as 6th link in zombie setup.


Baron Nerf
The Baron: Now grants 10 to 20% increased minion maximum Life (from 20%), +1 to maximum number of Raised Zombies per 500 Strength (from 300) and with at least 1000 Strength, 1.5 to 2% of Damage dealt by your Raised Zombies is leeched to you as Life (from 2%). Using a Divine Orb will update existing versions of this item to these new values.

This will hit you hard depending on how much you liked stacking strength.

Personally, I have always run at just over 1000 strength so this doesn't worry me too much. But if you were stacking strength beyond 1500 you will probably feel it more in terms of a loss of DPS (less Zombies).

For those stacking strength to just above 1000 like me, we now have 2 less zombies (1 less from Baron and 1 less from gem levels). This DPS loss can be made up for by swapping out FF in 6th link for Minion Damage (as an example). So no issues there.

For those stacking strength above 1500, you will lose 3+ zombies (2 less from Baron and 1 less from gem levels). Again, this can be somewhat mitigated from swapping out FF. But as you can see, the more strength you were previously stacking, the more DPS loss you will feel due to less zombies.

Overall, I think the Baron is still best in slot. BUT, helmets can roll +1 to zombies so that is an option to get a +3gem helm with +1 zombies and some other cool stats if going for just 1000 strength (as the difference now is just 1 zombie).


Buffs:
Raised Zombies now use animations we created for Path of Exile 2.
Zombie behaviour while idle and near the player is now less chaotic.

My life is complete.


Conclusion:
Potentially invest a little more into minion defence if they die more frequently.

Perhaps swap Mistress of Sacrifice to Commander of Darkness if struggling to get resistances.

We lose a bit of both DPS and Tankiness but overall we should still be very strong.

Overall, those going Geofri's/Tanky version will feel it the most due to Baron nerfs.

Those playing with Saqawals and Victarios will feel it but less so.

For those wearing speed belts and boots (ie Speed version), you have the luxury of changing those into a proper belt and boots for more DPS and Tankiness if you want to to offset some of the nerfs.

There will definitely be some testing to do come 3.10 to see how things feel and exactly what setup works best.

Overall, I think it was a fair nerf and we are set to still be one of (if not still) the strongest build in the game! And I'm sure once we get into the game and start playing around with things and improving upon it we'll only get better.

It's reminiscent of 3.9, everyone thinking there was no hope... but I AWLAYS GOT YOUR BACK GUYS! Don't ever forget it.

In 3.9 we came out bigger and stronger than ever. And get this, I played all of 3.9 with no Awakened Multistrike or Awakened Melee Physical Damage. Just getting those 2 things will pretty much offset any DPS loss from fewer zombies.

Oh mannn.... I'm excited!

Bring it on!