Five Weeks into 0.2.0, POE2 is Down 93.2% Players All Time & 83.9% from Patch Launch

Hope the streamers are truly gone, not just crying to get attention and their tiny blackmail out. All they want to do is transform 2 into 1 as much as possible, which is stupid - 2 will never have the speed, nr of projectiles and complexity of 1, but the more the former will resemble the latter, the more probable it is that 1 will be axed. I don't want that, I love 2 but it can only exist as is if 1 is still around.

The right approach imo is to let GGG craft 2 as it was meant to be, count that the new audience will show up, and money will be good enough to mantain 2 great games and bring 1 up to speed in graphics department. Wouldn't take much either, textures to the level of Kingsmarch, models to the level of latest mtx and it's beautiful to tears. I wouldn't even like 1 ported to 2's engine, I like it but all the fancy colours wouldn't fit 1.

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Kraythax#2592 เขียน:

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Hyperspacing#5593 เขียน:

or they have access to more data than you do and understand that you are actually the minority...Steam charts tell a small picture of how games work. So maybe instead of spending countless hours bashing this game that you clearly don't like. Perhaps spend more time playing games you like and moving on with your life.

No its copium. Its not wanting to see reality. This isnt a college project or a charity. Its a business. When you have no marketing or even worse negative marketing you find dead games, cancelled projects and layoffs at the bottom of that pit.

I DONT WANT TO SEE GGG THERE.

They built the most brilliant masterpiece of a game ever concieved. A game that threatened even gargantuan Diablo. And thin in POE2 they blew it. They went backwards 10y. Unless they figure it out and build a real sequel and fire the guy that says "we need to make it super hard so people die a lot to whites." They need to go back to what worked.

And you say others are coping? A pot calling the kettle black.

The main reason i almost dont play now is because GGG nukes builds to death. You can nerf and balance things, but why do you need to kill the build? What they did to Pathfinder Concoction is SO BAD that i am very sure some of them are actually incompetent.

could not agree more with those points.

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Rakie1337#5746 เขียน:

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Krytren#1839 เขียน:

They really hurt the community in .2. I seen that in the first day. The nerfs to Jewels and changing where they socket on the tree, the Jewels no longer have good minor and major passive nodes nearby to function, its mediocre. Made it so farming jewels from Sekhemas was trash. That was huge community building. Not to mention "the chest" piece no longer being the win all be all.

So many practicing on getting "the chest" or just farming that region, helped the casuals (like myself) and newbies get started. Especially on an alt starting a new ascendancy build is always better with trial carry. Paying a Divine for an alt this far into the season? nah. = downfall.

Not to mention making all the Sekhamas Afflictions unavoidable. 1000 cuts.

The real tell-tale sign to me was Jonathan almost shouting at ziz saying "we didn't even touch the campaign!"... doofus, you just fucked every single skill gem in the game starting from level 1 -- GGG doesn't think very well. They miss shit so obvious i'm often left stunned.

I actually laughed at that moment. Jonathan wasn’t even aware of the shadow HP buff on mobs. That alone says everything about how involved he really is. And before that, we found out he doesn’t even play endgame — just casual couch co-op. Oh, and their internal testing? Apparently only done with the Amazon class. Brilliant.

These debates about “player retention” crack me up. There’s a very obvious difference: POE1 loses players because they finished the content. POE2 loses players because the game is straight-up miserable to play.
POE1 drops to POE2 levels after 4–5 months. POE2 hit rock bottom in one.

But sure, keep pouring water on the fire like that “this is fine” dog meme.

I’m still waiting for someone to list those major good changes in patch 0.2 that people keep hyping up. I even went and re-read the patch notes just to be fair. Aside from some new classes and a few decent QoL improvements — nothing. All the new mechanics turned out to be garbage, old ones got butchered, and by the time you reach the “Player Changes” section, you just want to cry.

Isn't ziz the guy who cheats in hardcore, I mean logouts macro heh

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MadSheo#0280 เขียน:

The main reason i almost dont play now is because GGG nukes builds to death. You can nerf and balance things, but why do you need to kill the build? What they did to Pathfinder Concoction is SO BAD that i am very sure some of them are actually incompetent.

So you want stable builds in early access with half the classes, weapons and tree, otherwise incompetent, ok

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So you want stable builds in early access with half the classes, weapons and tree, otherwise incompetent, ok

Dunno, nerfing minions so hard that they need a 100% more damage buff in the early league patches is pretty incompetent.

-400% Rare monster minions HP too.

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 เขียน:

Isn't ziz the guy who cheats in hardcore, I mean logouts macro heh

The real question is... who doesn't do that? Seems the ALF+F4 strategy is so naturally used to skip dying in Sekhemas Floor 4 Boss to skip have to re-do the whole waste of time that is to get in there that it should be a in-game feature by now.

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Kraythax#2592 เขียน:

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Kerchunk#7797 เขียน:

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Rakie1337#5746 เขียน:

The real tell-tale sign to me was Jonathan almost shouting at ziz

I think what might help you contextualize things a little more realistically is if you understood that the overwhelming majority of people playing this game have no idea who either of those people are.

A game that alienates ALL of their streamers basically fired their marketing department. They are in trouble when they do that. In fact its worse because now people wont play because of the streamers. So you take ALL of your POE1 streamers and tell them "no you are wrong, the audience is wrong, the players are wrong and if you don't like it buzz off." They buzzed off and are streaming other games. Anyone who doesn't think that is a problem is on a HEAVY dose of copium.

Haven't we all seen this before? Hollywood telling the fans they are wrong. Isn't really working out for Hollywood is it.