Five Weeks into 0.2.0, POE2 is Down 93.2% Players All Time & 83.9% from Patch Launch
" Agreed! The crafting is worthless at midgame, barebones at late/endgame and completly irrelant at the start and throughout the campaing. |
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" He didn't frame much things as fact, he actually used keywords "my opinion", "I like", "it feels" quite a lot. The "frame" you are talking about is by definition your own perception. Starting this very sentence with "he is right", was kinda ironic. Comparing PoE2 to different games isn't pointless in his context, as it wasn't directly game to game. Games mechanics are often designed with inspiration from other games (you like facts, this is one). That's what he did : some mechanics aren't bad intrinsically, but they can be bad when implemented in different genres. That's what he wrote and is completely valid. It's even more sad that you quote Sekiro, as it was litteraly brought up by him as giving context regarding his gaming habits. Did you really read or you just scanned through ? The other guy said he enjoys PoE2, that would have been fine. That's not where the issue is. He is full of hyperboles, borderline insults, and quite often just wrong. Sentences like "I'm sorry the maps are not empty flat squares to zoom through and leave asap, which might be your preference." are laughable if that's supposed to be an argument (that may not be obvious to you : that's the hyperbole category). Reminder that their whole convo started with : "not some gospel to be followed just because it happens to echo your sentiments". That's basically whiteknighting. You like the game as is ? Perfect, good for you, then go play, it doesn't need your defense on a forum. As you seem to like facts : "Ah yes, it's me the outlier vs the "community", ofc impersonated by you and your bs opinions." The fact is, that majority didn't like 0.2. He can like it, good for him. But he IS the outlier and the other is more in line with players behaviour. Finally when I read : "I also like 1 and play it a lot even now" and I see 2 challenges in settlers, that lasted so many months, I'll reserve the right to press X to doubt the purposes and sincerity of this guy. แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย rob_korn#1745 เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2025 17:02:25
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It does sadly suck , but it gets even worse than this.
This post highlights problems with direction - but sadly the game is also plagued by technical difficulties. I play a Chaos lich in this second season of poe 2, I would like to keep playing- however GGG wont let me because the servers spit me out whenever Contagion/ED/totem hit too many targets at once on a delirium map with some increased pack size, it happens absolutely non stop, losing the map entirely and atlas node. This has eviscerated my will to keep playing , thanks. |
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" Perfect analysis! Kudos |
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Also completely wrong and weird.
Assuming the other guy wants empty flat squares to zoom through is intended as a hyperbole yes, I use in debate to highlight a point. [Removed by Support] Anyway, the flat squares thing comes from constant whining of PoE 1 players about 2's speed, size of the maps and amount of terrain on them. The question then is, what do you want, small maps with no terrain to zoom freely like some maps from 1. That was a result of technical limitations, but now is some kind of reference? I say make the maps bigger, what now. Anyway, the guy turned out not to be a 1 player, I was wrong with that assumption, and I thought I might be tbh - I said it might be his preference... Then I was answering the guy who reacted to the guy in question's post with "how doesn't Jonathan listen to post like this", and said that it's not gospel. It's whiteknighting apparently? the original poster claimed that the game is trying to seem bigger by artificially stretching, is that fact? Where's proof then. More than half he listed as negatives I see as positives. I like the slow speed and big zones, I don't get into the zone to just want to leave it asap, and the slow speed is more immersive than disco dashing through map. That enemies have bloated hp vs last patch might be a fact, but that this is part of artificialy stretching the game, or that it is a negative, is an opinion. It's actually ridiculous that I have to explain it to adult, literary men and am called a white knight in the process. And yes I play a lot of 1 even now. It's so empty that it's a great time for hc ruthless ssf, so one can imagine not getting a lot of challenges done. Not my only account btw, but hey another profile detective. [Removed by Support] แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Vash_GGG#0000 เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2025 21:56:28
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"No point for me trying to dive in a non-discussion, your method has been pretty clear. In the end, it's rather easy to understand my point, I'll highlight one more time for you, get it or don't, no point trying for more : " Good luck, have fun. |
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Ofc you will not get into it, you have no leg to stand on.
Same can be said to you and the other guy, you don't like it leave. And yes I am going to play it today, and will defend here or there from opinions stated as facts. แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2025 19:21:37
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" Oh I have legs to stand on. The issue is that you say stuff like this : " And then : " without flinching. You ARE the outlier, and proved it again. There is no arguing with you, because you don't make much sense alone already. Any attempt at discussing is turned into an hyperbole, a stretch or reduced to a big generalization : " " Convenient. How about you reply with your other account then ? แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย rob_korn#1745 เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2025 20:15:26
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Frankly the only thing in POE1 ruthless that are more annoying than POE2 is finding support gems. That can be solved with trade. There are some other crafting restrictions as well I guess. But POE2 on balance is much more irritating masochism. Keep in mind Ruthless in POE1 attracted a very small subset of players. POE2 is heavily biased to Ruthless. Kripparian basically said this. The problem, that even Kripparian knows, is that MOST people dont want to play this.
Ruthless in POE1 isnt hard, its just tedious and annoying. POE2 makes POE1 ruthless look not so bad. |
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