Five Weeks into 0.2.0, POE2 is Down 93.2% Players All Time & 83.9% from Patch Launch

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ShaDarkLord#6528 เขียน:

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rob_korn#1745 เขียน:

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 เขียน:

Ofc you will not get into it, you have no leg to stand on.

Same can be said to you and the other guy, you don't like it leave. And yes I am going to play it today, and will defend here or there from opinions stated as facts.

Oh I have legs to stand on. The issue is that you say stuff like this :

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"Ah yes, it's me the outlier vs the "community", ofc impersonated by you and your bs opinions."

And then :

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it's a great time for hc ruthless ssf

without flinching. You ARE the outlier, and proved it again. There is no arguing with you, because you don't make much sense alone already.

He’s an outlier, exactly like you said. Even the worst ideas have their die-hard fans.
There are people who genuinely enjoy Diablo Immortal. And you know what? That’s totally fine — as long as they keep their exotic tastes to themselves instead of preaching them like gospel.

I sarcastically called myself an outlier in response to this quote

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ShaDarkLord#6528 เขียน:

You can be endlessly stubborn, showering GGG with praise — but you won’t fool the community with empty flattery.

Outlier as a lone PoE 2 defender vs some imagined, unified, single voice "community" that I'm trying to fool, which is obviously false in a half a million strong playerbase. Nothing to do with the mode I currently play.

Also I never said I play it exclusively, I just said it's a great time for Ruthless HC SSF. The guy you quote assumed a bit too much maybe, everyone does it seems. I saw people assume, without any proof or mention, that smb plays no mechanically complex games like they do, and passionately argue that fantasy scenario.

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ShaDarkLord#6528 เขียน:

he reads diagonally, rips a half-sentence out of context, and then passionately argues against the fantasy version of your opinion he invented in his own head — usually by blowing it up into some absurd caricature.

You say I rip half-sentences out of context, answering a post with my half-sentences ripped completely out of context. The amount of irony here is staggering.

And I play everything, can enjoy both the power trip of zoom, and the scarcity and well, ruthlessness of ruthless. Might be why I don't mind having 2 games with different philosophies, being able to appreciate both.

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ShaDarkLord#6528 เขียน:

Enjoying SSF HC in POE 2?
Sure, that sounds like a perfectly normal thing to enjoy… if you’re into digital masochism.
(Although, ironically, I do think the game should be balanced around SSF. Now that’s what an opinion looks like.)

Except it was about me playing HC SSF Ruthless. Learn your modes please.

How is HC SSF digital masochism, because of no trade? It's full game otherwise, I play this mode for fun, and hc just make the trivial parts like campaign more exciting, bring weight to gameplay and demands proper focus. Nothing masochistic about it.

How do you even know btw? From what you've just said, you came with PoE 2. Did you play it enough yourself, or just repeating the opinion of others?

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That’s totally fine — as long as they keep their exotic tastes to themselves instead of preaching them like gospel.

This blade cuts both ways. To them, your tastes are exotic. So then are you going to take your own advice?

Didn't think so.

This isn't a war, there is room for every opinion.

"the vision"

by the blind

After the super successful launch in December, GGG moved from developing the game to "fixing" the game. That was a serious error! Don't fix that which is not broken, is a great motto to apply.

In 0.2, instead of simply developing PoE2 further toward launch status, GGG chose to focus on nerfing the snot out of what people enjoyed about the game and, consequently, nerfed the snot out of their player base as well.

The course can and should be corrected. Problem is, it is much easier to destroy, than to rebuild. And make no mistake, GGG kicked their own momentum right in the bollocks. Now, even all the right adjustments will take time to bear fruit.

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Nefeiy#2129 เขียน:

After the super successful launch in December, GGG moved from developing the game to "fixing" the game. That was a serious error! Don't fix that which is not broken, is a great motto to apply.

In 0.2, instead of simply developing PoE2 further toward launch status, GGG chose to focus on nerfing the snot out of what people enjoyed about the game and, consequently, nerfed the snot out of their player base as well.

The course can and should be corrected. Problem is, it is much easier to destroy, than to rebuild. And make no mistake, GGG kicked their own momentum right in the bollocks. Now, even all the right adjustments will take time to bear fruit.

Do you ever take a moment and reflect on the fact that maybe just maybe all of us don't have the full dataset and the numbers are actually quite good. GGG has access to the entire dataset and no company on planet earth makes moves to lose money. Which shows anyone that this very vocal minority on the forum is not the consensus of what the data shows.

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Hyperspacing#5593 เขียน:

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Nefeiy#2129 เขียน:

After the super successful launch in December, GGG moved from developing the game to "fixing" the game. That was a serious error! Don't fix that which is not broken, is a great motto to apply.

In 0.2, instead of simply developing PoE2 further toward launch status, GGG chose to focus on nerfing the snot out of what people enjoyed about the game and, consequently, nerfed the snot out of their player base as well.

The course can and should be corrected. Problem is, it is much easier to destroy, than to rebuild. And make no mistake, GGG kicked their own momentum right in the bollocks. Now, even all the right adjustments will take time to bear fruit.

Do you ever take a moment and reflect on the fact that maybe just maybe all of us don't have the full dataset and the numbers are actually quite good. GGG has access to the entire dataset and no company on planet earth makes moves to lose money. Which shows anyone that this very vocal minority on the forum is not the consensus of what the data shows.

I doubt it, tbh, plenty of game developers pushed their audience into the abyss in the name of artistic integrity.

NRFtW is currently doing the same, their main dev called most of the playerbase too dumb to understand how stats work last month.

I get GGG and i get the anti-GGG community, but i don't believe they're immune to fucking up in design direction, especially with such a green/unfinished project.

I have quit recently, 230hrs+ this league but I simply can't force myself to play anymore, which is sad because I really need a game but this one makes me feel like I'm never going to feel good about any of the rng. It's just too much. Last time I played I just kept dying and lost my exp back down to 0% and I was glad. Every item that drops all complete garbage to the point that it's offensive how bad the drops are. I just decided it's over.

So you can actually subtract 2 more because I also have two consoles and tried to dual box for better drops. Maybe it is more loot but who cares when everything sucks so hard.

The market seller people might be the only ones that have any sort of certainty of how there game is going. If you actually like trying to play the game you get left behind and burned.

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Do you ever take a moment and reflect on the fact that maybe just maybe all of us don't have the full dataset and the numbers are actually quite good. GGG has access to the entire dataset and no company on planet earth makes moves to lose money. Which shows anyone that this very vocal minority on the forum is not the consensus of what the data shows.

There is evidence that player engagement has declined.
There is no evidence to the contrary.

The above is simply cognitive dissonance. You're inability to accept reality. Instead you've chosen to head over to lala land, where some mystical silent majority resides. oof.

Compared to what though. Seems logical that there will be more people on ea release, that on kind of almost league-y patch. The difference in hype is enormous, and I don't know who the additional people are - 1000h endgame guys just angry about no jeweler drops, or campaign first guys/ casuals who were happy to play once and wait for full ver, do you?