Remove -10% from game

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mrhouston#5669 เขียน:

Death exp penalty is the worst decision this company ever made, and keep doing over and over again.

Threads like this immediately attract all of the same "guardians" of this awful feature; and since they make a big discussion, it may seem like this is about 50% popular; but just observe the thread below; there's good indication the death exp penalty is the number one reason people quit the game:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3801032/page/1

These "guardians" are just much more vocal about wanting to keep it. Or just not let anyone else have it, in separate leagues.

Which makes sense, they must have a lot of free time in their hands. And well, they're here for much more time than people who decided to quit, of course.

Without death exp penalty, certain web stores selling Poe items would see their real money prices fall a lot... just saying.

Sadly, GGG always sides with this over-active minority. No surprise there either, since they care for streamers' opinions, that see this game as a full-time money-making job.

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mrhouston#5669 เขียน:

Death exp penalty is the worst decision this company ever made, and keep doing over and over again.

Threads like this immediately attract all of the same "guardians" of this awful feature; and since they make a big discussion, it may seem like this is about 50% popular; but just observe the thread below; there's good indication the death exp penalty is the number one reason people quit the game:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3801032/page/1

These "guardians" are just much more vocal about wanting to keep it. Or just not let anyone else have it, in separate leagues.

Which makes sense, they must have a lot of free time in their hands. And well, they're here for much more time than people who decided to quit, of course.

Without death exp penalty, certain web stores selling Poe items would see their real money prices fall a lot... just saying.

Sadly, GGG always sides with this over-active minority. No surprise there either, since they care for streamers' opinions, that see this game as a full-time money-making job.

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Zar_Wagash#5933 เขียน:

You definitely have to remove -10% of the experience for death, and now I'll tell you why.:
1. In endgame, it doesn't motivate you to find the best items for the build, simply because they don't exist for any money. All the best is already on the character.
2. Due to the unwillingness to lose the hard-earned experience, the player does not go to the most interesting content.
3. Players who come from other games, seeing this, twist their finger at their temples and say, "Are you masochists playing this? We don't have that in D4.
4. Yes, I like this game, but the penalty is based on experience, believe me, it's not cool. At some point, you realize that your build has reached the ceiling and there is no further progress. Otherwise, you're wasting your time, or you're redesigning the build for the meta. I think that's not cool either.
And finally. Yes, you made an omen, under the action of which 1 time per map the player gets -2.5% experience instead of -10%, but it's still not cool, because for 1 map the player gets 1% or less. And anyway, after death, he will no longer go for an interesting and exciting monster or boss, even if there are still portals left.
Please remove the -10% death penalty. You'll see, it'll be better.

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also wouldn't it be great if the game stopped killing you at random without giving you even a split second to react? i feel like this itself would ameliorate the XP loss to acceptable levels for vast majority, yet here we are, another XP loss thread

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chosk80#3649 เขียน:

The -xp stays and the -xp at 10% is fair.

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Evergrey#7535 เขียน:

We had this discussion million times. There was one valid conclusion from the ones i participated in:

The only way that's acceptable for both sides, would be to make you choose whether you want to loose XP on death or not - and give some sort of reward to these whom reached level 100 with XP Loss on.
Also, these would need to be within same trade economy, as splitting the playerbase more is just a bad idea.

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arandan#3174 เขียน:

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Evergrey#7535 เขียน:

We had this discussion million times. There was one valid conclusion from the ones i participated in:

The only way that's acceptable for both sides, would be to make you choose whether you want to loose XP on death or not - and give some sort of reward to these whom reached level 100 with XP Loss on.
Also, these would need to be within same trade economy, as splitting the playerbase more is just a bad idea.

Characters that lose xp on death and those that don't cannot occupy the same ladder. I hope I don't need to explain why.

This has been brought up before and as far as implementation goes would need to boil down to a baby mode league, which would lead to... splitting the player base.