GGG which lane are you on: Mindless Blasting or "Visceral" combat

Metal gear rising is not an RPG in any sense lmao. I can't even tell if you're a troll at this point.

And there's no Bible, there doesn't have to be, it's common sense based on decades of player behavior patterns in the isometric ARPG genre. No one has been conditioned to anything, some of us just have a reasonable level of pattern recognition. Players follow the same patterns in every game in the genre, including this one and speed is, has been, and always will be king.
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
Metal gear rising is not an RPG in any sense lmao. I can't even tell if you're a troll at this point.

And there's no Bible, there doesn't have to be, it's common sense based on decades of player behavior patterns in the isometric ARPG genre. No one has been conditioned to anything, some of us just have a reasonable level of pattern recognition. Players follow the same patterns in every game in the genre, including this one and speed is, has been, and always will be king.

It's an action game.
Here's an actual ARPG(action RPG):
https://youtu.be/9wyuDd8wLeY

You have been conditioned to it, as the last decade of ARPGs has been the downfall of the genre and turned it into trash even the creator of the genre doesn't like.

https://www.videogamer.com/features/diablo-creator-david-brevik-doesnt-vibe-with-todays-rapid-arpgs/
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย ShiyoKozuki#4168 เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2025 16:49:50
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ShiyoKozuki#4168 เขียน:
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
Metal gear rising is not an RPG in any sense lmao. I can't even tell if you're a troll at this point.

And there's no Bible, there doesn't have to be, it's common sense based on decades of player behavior patterns in the isometric ARPG genre. No one has been conditioned to anything, some of us just have a reasonable level of pattern recognition. Players follow the same patterns in every game in the genre, including this one and speed is, has been, and always will be king.

It's an action game.
Here's an actual ARPG(action RPG):
https://youtu.be/9wyuDd8wLeY

You have been conditioned to it, as the last decade of ARPGs has been the downfall of the genre and turned it into trash even the creator of the genre doesn't like.

https://www.videogamer.com/features/diablo-creator-david-brevik-doesnt-vibe-with-todays-rapid-arpgs/


If that video you linked is meant to be relevant to the conversation, I'd like some of whatever you're smoking. Also who cares about David Brevik? People also tried to zoom zoom in D2, and still do to this day. Speed is and always will be king when grinding is a goal
Article complains about newer ARPGs, then they link D4 at the end lol
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:

If that video you linked is meant to be relevant to the conversation, I'd like some of whatever you're smoking. Also who cares about David Brevik? People also tried to zoom zoom in D2, and still do to this day. Speed is and always will be king when grinding is a goal


Can you maybe wrap your head around the fact that speed is king in your brain and not in everyone's? And you can't tell me what I have to want — if you do think you are the "correct" one here and everybody else is just "wrong", my condolences. Please take a step away from this thread — you are not helping anyone here by just stating they are wrong and insulting them.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย KäsePizza#3007 เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2025 17:06:15
If I'm speed farming the games over for me and my characters done.
It shouldn't be possible to speed farm without full bis mirrored items, because once you're at that point you beat the game. (And I'd prefer it never being a thing you can do tbh)

No clue how people sit here mindlessly speed farming for weeks straight; I guess mos people don't because POE1/2 have massive drop offs after 1 week.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย ShiyoKozuki#4168 เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2025 17:09:21
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
Also who cares about David Brevik? People also tried to zoom zoom in D2, and still do to this day. Speed is and always will be king when grinding is a goal


i think more people care about Breviks opinion than yours

and i agree with the other poster, your posts seem disingenuous. disagreeing with the genre creator on defining aspects of said genre is hard to view in any other way
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
ARPGs aren't mmos where you fight one boss for 15 minutes


Says who?

Ever heard of Lost Arc?
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย iHiems#0168 เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2025 20:15:46
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iHiems#0168 เขียน:
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
ARPGs aren't mmos where you fight one boss for 15 minutes


Says who?

Ever heard of Lost Arc?

All ARPGs must be the exact same.
All FPS must be CoD
All racing must be mario kart
All MMOs must be WoW clones
All platfomers must be mario
All RPGS must be turn based
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย ShiyoKozuki#4168 เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2025 20:42:43
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Herbeh#6842 เขียน:
It's not lying in the marketing, it was bad initial design philosophy. ARPGs aren't mmos where you fight one boss for 15 minutes. You can still use all the attack speed and movement speed slows you want from nodes and gems, but you won't, because it's fundamentally not fun.

If you think you like the genre, but constantly complain about people being able to go fast, you really don't. You like the IDEA of the genre, just like how people fall in love with the IDEA of someone, rather than who that person actually is


You have no idea what you're talking about, and you present your feelings as facts. Same silly argument what arpgs are, it's not for you to define what it is, it's been many other "things" over the years and origins of that genre were much slower. Poe 1 is another genre itself, could call it zoom-rpg or whatever, but don't call it's gameplay the only possibility, because that makes you look ignorant.

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