Is THIS Good Combat, GGG?

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

how about player retention? Maybe the word or the math involved if too complex for you. and 0.1? no point using it a yardstick, as everybody with half a brain would know. Maybe when the full story release comes we can try again, but even then you won't generate the new release flood of casuals that play for 10 hours. And how a game company measures success? money mate, money, no rainbows and ponies involved.
Sure as hell not how many dudes login in quit after 2 acts of the game. like you do. naive indeed.

You serious brah? for real? really?

0.1 had the same amount of players as 0.3 has right now.

How is this too complex for you to grasp? Do you know the concept of months and numbers in general? 3 months is longer than 2 months. ~120k is ~120k.

Please, just stop, you can't embarass yourself anymore...

El. oh. él.

All we need are two separate leagues with completely different mechanics. One for fun, Invoker/Spark-like characters (like in the first season), and a second one with Elden Ring–style mechanics. Half of the players want one, the other half wants the other. We’ll never be satisfied with compromises.

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quarki#9020 เขียน:

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

how about player retention? Maybe the word or the math involved if too complex for you. and 0.1? no point using it a yardstick, as everybody with half a brain would know. Maybe when the full story release comes we can try again, but even then you won't generate the new release flood of casuals that play for 10 hours. And how a game company measures success? money mate, money, no rainbows and ponies involved.
Sure as hell not how many dudes login in quit after 2 acts of the game. like you do. naive indeed.

You serious brah? for real? really?

0.1 had the same amount of players as 0.3 has right now.

How is this too complex for you to grasp? Do you know the concept of months and numbers in general? 3 months is longer than 2 months. ~120k is ~120k.

Please, just stop, you can't embarass yourself anymore...

El. oh. él.

No worries, I'm not embarrassed by someone who uses "brah", bold fonts and a cringe postscript on his every post to sound funny.
also 0.1 had 500k+ players on launch only on steam, while 0.3 had only ~350k, so they didn't have the same player numbers.

also here is a little primer for you, come back after you learned it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage

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barczik#9534 เขียน:

All we need are two separate leagues with completely different mechanics. One for fun, Invoker/Spark-like characters (like in the first season), and a second one with Elden Ring–style mechanics. Half of the players want one, the other half wants the other. We’ll never be satisfied with compromises.

They did something like this in poe1. Ruthless has about 5 players ;)

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

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quarki#9020 เขียน:

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

how about player retention? Maybe the word or the math involved if too complex for you. and 0.1? no point using it a yardstick, as everybody with half a brain would know. Maybe when the full story release comes we can try again, but even then you won't generate the new release flood of casuals that play for 10 hours. And how a game company measures success? money mate, money, no rainbows and ponies involved.
Sure as hell not how many dudes login in quit after 2 acts of the game. like you do. naive indeed.

You serious brah? for real? really?

0.1 had the same amount of players as 0.3 has right now.

How is this too complex for you to grasp? Do you know the concept of months and numbers in general? 3 months is longer than 2 months. ~120k is ~120k.

Please, just stop, you can't embarass yourself anymore...

El. oh. él.

No worries, I'm not embarrassed by someone who uses "brah", bold fonts and a cringe postscript on his every post to sound funny.
also 0.1 had 500k+ players on launch only on steam, while 0.3 had only ~350k, so they didn't have the same player numbers.

also here is a little primer for you, come back after you learned it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage

So funny you're brining that up, because

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

And how a game company measures success? money mate, money, no rainbows and ponies involved.

Because surely your yardstick brain would understand that the initial 500k people brought in more money, then the few new ones at 0.3.

Hoisted by your own petard.

El. oh. él.

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

also 0.1 had 500k+ players on launch only on steam, while 0.3 had only ~350k, so they didn't have the same player numbers.

0.1 also came with a massive marketing push that included every streamer they could get playing the game.
the peak concurrent in 0.3 was bigger than poe1 ever hit (on steam)
both patches play plenty fast, significantly slowing it down will be a wild shift in the experience people have which will risk driving away many of those hundreds of thousands of players.

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tsunamikun#0433 เขียน:

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barczik#9534 เขียน:

All we need are two separate leagues with completely different mechanics. One for fun, Invoker/Spark-like characters (like in the first season), and a second one with Elden Ring–style mechanics. Half of the players want one, the other half wants the other. We’ll never be satisfied with compromises.

They did something like this in poe1. Ruthless has about 5 players ;)

yeah ruthless is basically just a charity league. dude saying "half of the players" want that is insane lol.

i also dont understand why people have it in their heads that you dont one shot trash mobs in elden ring... you do.
the people who *actually* like souls like have a LOAD of options that far better suit their preferences. not sure why some feel the need to force that style into POE, its like showing up at a soccer game and bitching that it isnt baseball.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 เขียน:

yeah ruthless is basically just a charity league. dude saying that "half of the players" want that is insane lol.

i also dont understand why people have it in their heads that you dont one shot trash mobs in elden ring... you do.
not to mention that the people who *actually* like souls like have a LOAD of options that far better suit their preferences.
its simply NOT what isometric arpgs are.

Judging by ruthless in poe1 is just ridiculous.
Poe1 is not designed for this initially, its not default league and theres clearly people who dont want even install poe1 due to it zoomy gameplay.

You can clearly see 600k online in 0.1 which is like 3x of average poe1 league, of people who wanted this new advertised meaningful combat and gameplay.
May be theres 1/3 of them of poe1 players, but even there not all want it to be poe1 clone (like me).

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 เขียน:

yeah ruthless is basically just a charity league. dude saying "half of the players" want that is insane lol.

i also dont understand why people have it in their heads that you dont one shot trash mobs in elden ring... you do.
the people who *actually* like souls like have a LOAD of options that far better suit their preferences. not sure why some feel the need to force that style into POE, its like showing up at a soccer game and bitching that it isnt baseball.

You seem to misunderstand. GGG wanted that, not the poe1 players.

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Nikuksis#6962 เขียน:

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 เขียน:

yeah ruthless is basically just a charity league. dude saying that "half of the players" want that is insane lol.

i also dont understand why people have it in their heads that you dont one shot trash mobs in elden ring... you do.
not to mention that the people who *actually* like souls like have a LOAD of options that far better suit their preferences.
its simply NOT what isometric arpgs are.

Judging by ruthless in poe1 is just ridiculous.
Poe1 is not designed for this initially, its not default league and theres clearly people who dont want even install poe1 due to it zoomy gameplay.

You can clearly see 600k online in 0.1 which is like 3x of average poe1 league, of people who wanted this new advertised meaningful combat and gameplay.
May be theres 1/3 of them of poe1 players, but even there not all want it to be poe1 clone (like me).

and every poe2 league, fast gameplay and all has had more players than poe1 ever had
sounds like you just dont like poe and should find something you enjoy.

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quarki#9020 เขียน:

You seem to misunderstand. GGG wanted that, not the poe1 players.

you seem to misunderstand that GGG is a business and are providing what the majority of their customers want.
bye.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 เขียน:

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Nikuksis#6962 เขียน:

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 เขียน:

yeah ruthless is basically just a charity league. dude saying that "half of the players" want that is insane lol.

i also dont understand why people have it in their heads that you dont one shot trash mobs in elden ring... you do.
not to mention that the people who *actually* like souls like have a LOAD of options that far better suit their preferences.
its simply NOT what isometric arpgs are.

Judging by ruthless in poe1 is just ridiculous.
Poe1 is not designed for this initially, its not default league and theres clearly people who dont want even install poe1 due to it zoomy gameplay.

You can clearly see 600k online in 0.1 which is like 3x of average poe1 league, of people who wanted this new advertised meaningful combat and gameplay.
May be theres 1/3 of them of poe1 players, but even there not all want it to be poe1 clone (like me).

and every poe2 league, fast gameplay and all has had more players than poe1 ever had
sounds like you just dont like poe and should find something you enjoy.

Maybe you and all the complainers should accept the fact, that GGG decided to make slower combat, so sounds like you just dont like poe2 and should find something you enjoy.

El. oh. él.