Your game still has A LOT to learn from Diablo games

We all know PoE 2 is based on Diablo 2, a game that is around 20 years old. And yes, it has more from D2 than it has from PoE1 at this point.
You can still learn from Diablo games, like Diablo 4. At launch, D4 had almost the same problems PoE2 is having: devs wanting to slow down the pace of the game, punishing players, and making them grind way too much in order to blast and have fun. What happened is just what will happen to PoE2: you'll be leaking players until you finally decide to turn down all those things you are doing now, stuff like:

- Allowing even white mobs to 1-shot characters with defences capped

- Nerfing what players find fun to play

- XP lost on death - This is not a job, this is a game and I shouldn't be punished for dying to things that don't even work properly.

- Making ascendancies, and even campaign, an entire grind << This season I haven't even started a second character and I won't be doing it because I legit don't want to go through those almost infinite maps in campaign. Peole have suggested good things like allowing alternative characters to get the act buffs as soon as they hit new acts so we don't have to do every quest again. This already happens in form of Sekhemas carries.

- having A LOT of downsides in the skill tree for fun nodes, like the crime commited against Giants Blood node this season. This forces players to go meta/broken/bugged builds every season in order to farm for currency

PoE 2 feels like a punishing job in which you have to start the league at the same time others do, otherwise the inflantion won't allow you to buy items. Trading is mandatory because you can literally go 3 seasons playing everyday without getting the drop you are looking for.

D4 is allowing the fun for the players and people enjoy the game, create alternative characters and can actually play a videogame.
Players WILL ALWAYS find ways to break the game and be OP with bugs and meta-builds. Allow the fun for everyone, please stop making this game so ''painful'' to grind.

If you think that D4 is fun then you should leave this place immediately and forever.

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Sakanabi#6664 เขียน:

If you think that D4 is fun then you should leave this place immediately and forever.

Sadly for you, I won't.
D4 is fun. You can go and ask the thousands of players playing it and they will answer the same.
Your opinion doesn't change reality. You can keep thinking it does, tho. That also changes nothing.

That being said, sit down, save this post, and watch PoE 2 do what I pointed. You know why? Because this is a business, and players dying too much, grinding too much, and having penalties for almost every step they take gets boring pretty soon. So they will change it.
Don't believe me? Look how they changed portals, Towers, Ascendancy swap, etc.

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 เขียน:

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Sakanabi#6664 เขียน:

If you think that D4 is fun then you should leave this place immediately and forever.

Sadly for you, I won't.
D4 is fun. You can go and ask the thousands of players playing it and they will answer the same.
Your opinion doesn't change reality. You can keep thinking it does, tho. That also changes nothing.

That being said, sit down, save this post, and watch PoE 2 do what I pointed. You know why? Because this is a business, and players dying too much, grinding too much, and having penalties for almost every step they take gets boring pretty soon. So they will change it.
Don't believe me? Look how they changed portals, Towers, Ascendancy swap, etc.

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Portals are basically back in 0.1 (which I welcome), Towers are changed so now we can juice every map and Ascendancy swap is even in PoE 1 so I don't know what do you mean exactly. I'm good bro and I hope that PoE 2 never ever turn into boring bullshit which D4 is. I bought and played that game and my disappointment was huge (especially because Blizzard promissed that D4 will be returning to "roots").

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Sakanabi#6664 เขียน:

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 เขียน:

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Sakanabi#6664 เขียน:

If you think that D4 is fun then you should leave this place immediately and forever.

Sadly for you, I won't.
D4 is fun. You can go and ask the thousands of players playing it and they will answer the same.
Your opinion doesn't change reality. You can keep thinking it does, tho. That also changes nothing.

That being said, sit down, save this post, and watch PoE 2 do what I pointed. You know why? Because this is a business, and players dying too much, grinding too much, and having penalties for almost every step they take gets boring pretty soon. So they will change it.
Don't believe me? Look how they changed portals, Towers, Ascendancy swap, etc.

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Portals are basically back in 0.1 (which I welcome), Towers are changed so now we can juice every map and Ascendancy swap is even in PoE 1 so I don't know what do you mean exactly. I'm good bro and I hope that PoE 2 never ever turn into boring bullshit which D4 is. I bought and played that game and my disappointment was huge (especially because Blizzard promissed that D4 will be returning to "roots").

Maps were 1 portal. People didn't like it. They are not anymore.
Towers were mandatory to juice. Players didn't like it. They are gone.
Ascendancies were a ''meaningful'' choice and couldn't be swapped. Players didn't like it. It can be swapped now.
Don't bring PoE1, nobody is talking about PoE1.
This is PoE2. And it is based on D2, but players don't like it... you know what's next.

People with a job and an actual life don't want to play the game that they (we) played 20 years ago. And GGG is learning the same Blizzard learnt with D4: players want to blast and have fun, nobody wants an endless grind as a game.
Yap all you want. You perfectly know that they game will be more and more D4 because that's how players get interested on the game and they end up buying MTX.

"players want to blast blah blah blah"

Yeah some players want to blast and others not, so poe 2 was made because every game on the market now is about blasting.

What do you not understand?

Btw. Inflation is directly caused by not nerfing op builds, your idea to not nerf it.

GGG please take nothing from the dead games that are diablo 3 and diablo 4

D3 and D4 are the biggest let down in the history of ARPG's.

D2 was fantastic.

D3 Was treason and I still to this day will never forgive them for what they've done to the franchise. I blame the whole team, they should have sticked with blizzard north for the development.

D4 is a grotesque clown show.

In short, no. No thank you. Never.

Please don't learn from D3 and D4, unless you want to learn on how to not make a game. Thank you

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Oinkaments#6390 เขียน:

D3 and D4 are the biggest let down in the history of ARPG's.

D2 was fantastic.

D3 Was treason and I still to this day will never forgive them for what they've done to the franchise. I blame the whole team, they should have sticked with blizzard north for the development.

D4 is a grotesque clown show.

In short, no. No thank you. Never.

This.

As a D2 skelly necro main, I felt utterly betrayed when Diablo 3 finally came out. It's like the developers didn't learn a damn thing about why Diablo 2 was so popular and hailed as the grandfather of the genre.

I can see that ActiBlizz tried to make Diablo 4 more return to form, but all they did was copy the atmosphere of Diablo 2, failing once again to understand why it was so good.