Your game still has A LOT to learn from Diablo games

I dont know why everyone just play there games they like and have fun. Why so many people have to share there frustration, when they dont like something?

If i go in a restaurant and the food is horrible i just dont go there again. I dont blame anyone or scream in public about there bad food.

As someone already wrote, it ends always the same.

Its sad to read all the anger and frustration here. Sometimes i get angry too, when i read some threads or comments.
Normally im here for interesting topics and not holding children hands because they had a bad day in a game.

After the warning from the moderator i would recommend to close that topic. Nothing more is to say here.

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bennisen#4006 เขียน:

Why so many people have to share there frustration, when they dont like something?

It's a feedback forum.

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bennisen#4006 เขียน:

If i go in a restaurant and the food is horrible i just dont go there again. I dont blame anyone or scream in public about there bad food.

Hyperbolic. Nobody is screaming, they're writing, like you could a review on google per example.

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bennisen#4006 เขียน:

After the warning from the moderator i would recommend to close that topic. Nothing more is to say here.

Agreed, this thread is stage 4 cancer. It's rage bait at bare minimum and it should be closed.

Yes its a feedback forum but i sense always a lot of anger here. I told some people here already that the best thing is to calm down a few hours, before you post something here.
And thinking about choosing the right words i really would appreciate. We can talk over everything, but not like this.

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bennisen#4006 เขียน:

Yes its a feedback forum but i sense always a lot of anger here. I told some people here already that the best thing is to calm down a few hours, before you post something here.
And thinking about choosing the right words i really would appreciate. We can talk over everything, but not like this.

Whilst I agree, some threads are ingeneered into rage baiting people.

This is one of those threads.

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Kelvynn#6607 เขียน:

D3 was a crime against humanity.

The officially posted dev policy stated that every 2 weeks they would look at the performance metrics and nerf the most successful skills/builds and buff the least successful ones. Players were literally not allowed to have fun, at least not for long. If you found something that worked well - it would get nerfed within 2 weeks.

The quality and rarity of drops in game was totally miserable specifically because of the Auction House. The devs openly admitted that they had to keep it down, otherwise everybody would buy BiS items without ever having to grind. So then the game inevitably turned into the last second snipe fest at the AH (usually in the middle of the night).

None of these things are reasons why it was that bad.

Balancing the game and nerfing op builds is good and healthy for the economy and build variety. Why cuddle these at the top at the expense of everybody else? And if you think there is no consequence, think more about it really. We're not talking about gutting good builds, but those vastly outperforming everything else. But I agree to some degree, they ocassionaly ruined builds that were not too strong.

Again it depends on the crowd, but if you asked original D2 crowd, the main issue with the game was shallow itemisation straight copied from WoW and anticlimatic childish narration. It was all + strength or + dexterity or another flat stat. Imagine that in a series that introduces unique items with interesting properties...

The challenge on the release was good, not everybody has to be completing all difficulties. It is ridicolous idea that game has to be made so easy that even bad players can clear all content.

D3 and D4 eventually became products for wide casual modern crowd, shallow and easy, with free items, and obsolete campaign. It became end-game only as "I have to have it RIGHT NOW" crowd asked to turn it into funny game about moving the grass, but it's mobs instead - acting as loot pinatas.

I see a lot of opinions on this forum that contradict themselves, often asking for no nerfs and easier campaign, and more loot. It will cause exactly the same problems that Diablo 3 and 4 has, everything will become meaningless.

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Pizzarugi#6258 เขียน:

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Kelvynn#6607 เขียน:

The officially posted dev policy stated that every 2 weeks they would look at the performance metrics and nerf the most successful skills/builds and buff the least successful ones. Players were literally not allowed to have fun, at least not for long. If you found something that worked well - it would get nerfed within 2 weeks.

Not to nitpick, but doesn't GGG also literally do this?

Umm... no? GGG nerfs things that are clearly broken. Every 4 months. Blizzard nerfed the best performing skills for no other reason than performing well. No matter the margin, simply because those were the top N skills. Every 2 weeks. As I said, you were literally not allowed to have fun in D3. It's nothing like this in PoE.

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rifraf-_-#9478 เขียน:

I can't help but notice the contradictory in your post. D3/4 is all about that Mickey Mouse power fantasy that people who hate nerfs enjoy so much. If GGG followed Blizzards formula, they'd never nerf anything and the game would be a meme.

Sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me. You need to explain what you mean by 'Mickey Mouse' etc. GGG does not follow the policy that Blizzard had in D3. Maybe you misread my post.

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Kelvynn#6607 เขียน:

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Pizzarugi#6258 เขียน:

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Kelvynn#6607 เขียน:

The officially posted dev policy stated that every 2 weeks they would look at the performance metrics and nerf the most successful skills/builds and buff the least successful ones. Players were literally not allowed to have fun, at least not for long. If you found something that worked well - it would get nerfed within 2 weeks.

Not to nitpick, but doesn't GGG also literally do this?

Umm... no? GGG nerfs things that are clearly broken. Every 4 months. Blizzard nerfed the best performing skills for no other reason than performing well. No matter the margin, simply because those were the top N skills. Every 2 weeks. As I said, you were literally not allowed to have fun in D3. It's nothing like this in PoE.

The people saying otherwise haven'T played D3 at launch. Everything from it was a pure spit on the face of the players.

Yes nerfing op builds is healthy, but that's not what the diablo dev team for D3 did. They we're absolute idiots and then THEY DOUBLED their idiocracy hammering down anything that had potential like hawks. Any youtube video would lead to a nerf the next day. They would deprive the players from good loot, making it so rare you were forced into buying it from RMAH. I hope people can remember that Blizzard was taking a cut of each sale. I like when you need to grind for your gear, but not on the level it was at lauch, this was absolute fuckery and even the dev openly admitted in doing so to make sure that the RMAH was getting fed. This alienated the player base so much that the CEO had to make a video with a formal apology and saying he would make D3 great again.

But then, fuckery from another dimension came to fruition.

So when they realized RMAH was disliked, they removed the AH too and deprived players from trading then made the game went from a nightmare difficulty where white mobs would one shot you to a pure joke easy game. Then they flooded the drops.

If you want to learn how to destroy a beloved franchise, just do the same as the D3 team and you will succeed in every aspect of it.

I remember making a thread back then on their forum and I was filled with absolute rage. There was at least 30 different problems I listed that were major issues with the game. This is completely abnormal, they did everything possibly wrong.

Those who blame the community back then are completely deluded. It's on the team fault and their fault only.

The reason POE2 is good is, it's not taking example on D4 and D3 it's taking example on D2 and POE1... you're wrong.

Lost all credibility when it said D4 is allowing players to enjoy the game LOL

Yeah full of dupes, RMT and 0 content, go play it, seems on your level style of game, they just had a new season, why you on here crying?